Alternative grip, fitting methods

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Alternative grip, fitting methods

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Hi guys, I'm still in search of the best fitting grip for me. I have always felt that the ball doesn't lay on my hand comfortably the way I would like. I have read a bunch of old threads on other grip layouts, specifically Bill Hall's tri grip and Joe Slowinski's ADT. I believe after all the reading I have done that I have a hand that one of these grips would benefit.

There is a pro shop about 2hrs from me that advertises that they do the Tri Grip and I'm considering going there and have a ball refit to try it.

I can't find any current info on these grips so I'm guessing they never really caught on for one reason or another. Are any on you out there still using either of these methods?

I'm attaching a picture of how the ball currently sits on my hand....
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Hi, Racer!

Since nobody has responded, I will give you my two-cents worth.
I don't have any knowledge of the Tri-Grip approach that had a $200 price tag to buy in at one point.
However, I have embraced Joe Slowinski's ADT approach for a lot of years.
I used the ADT approach because I have a damaged thumb from years of hard work and abuse of that hand.
How Joe approaches the physiology of the hand has worked for me when laying out my bowling balls.
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Thanks for responding Glenn. From what I have read both methods are somewhat similar, at least in what they are trying to accomplish.

How would best describe the ADT grip vs a traditional fit?

Also does the ADT grip allow you to do the "modern release"? I know there was some debate about that back when it first came out.

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John,

I would like to see how you currently hold the ball as you would release it rather than how it "sits" in your hand (I hope that's not your release).

There are a lot of similarities between the ADT method and some other methods.

Hmmm...I would describe the ADT grip as having different pitches than the traditional IBPSIA fit.
For example, my thumb pitch is 5/8" plus to the left (standard IBPSIA pitch plus 3/8" to 1/2"), and the finger pitches aren't off of the normal T-Grip, but at an (about 23-degrees) offset, so they are "different".

I'll probably get beat up for this comment, but I feel the skill needed to do this properly is pretty high (and I don't know if I do it exactly right - but it works for me).
I think the ADT technique will be actually harder (more time consuming) for your average pro shop operator to do than Bill Hall's Tri-Grip method.

I can't think of anything about the ADT grip (as I do it) that would have an adverse affect on the "modern" release.
I assume most of those debates involve having a thumb with that much left pitch being some type of problem - IDK.
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Here are some more pics....
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The extra lateral pitch is one reason I'm interested in these drillings. When I use the coke can overlay I get 1/4" right at a minimum. If I just wrap my hand around it naturally without looking it's more like 3/8 to 1/2", maybe more.

My current balls are drilled 1/8" right
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Yep, a lot of the shops will layout the ball by laying your hand on it, drill the thumb first, and draw out the fingers on the ball.
I can see from the additional pictures how a more lateral thumb could improve the fit and feel for you.
The guys in the know (not me) say the Tri Grip is very good but at $200 I am not likely to know...
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Thanks Glenn, I really appreciate it. There is a shop about 2hrs from me that advertises that they do the Tri Grip. I'm gonna try to get in touch with him to set up an appointment. It's a long way to go, but it the Tri Grip does what they say, it will be worth it.
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Hey Glenn, where are you located?
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