Layout advice

Which layout is right for me?

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Walkerman10000
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Joined: March 3rd, 2013, 1:56 pm
THS Average: 210
Sport Average: 200
Positive Axis Point: 4 5/8' ---> by 1/4" ^
Speed: 16 .3 mph off my hand
Rev Rate: 300
Axis Tilt: 7
Axis Rotation: 55
Heavy Oil Ball: 900 Global Reality
Medium Oil Ball: 900 Global Zen
Light Oil Ball: Roto Grip Hustle PBR
Preferred Company: SPI Brands
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Re: Layout advice

Post by Walkerman10000 »

Ok thanks Eric, I just know I’ve used xx 4 7/8 x 30 on a 900 global zen, hy road pearl, and a night road that I drilled up yesterday on release day and I’ve won 3 tournaments on medium volume and medium distance sport shots with the zen and hy road pearl and just seemed that the ball reaction suited my eye better and seemed closer to how my asyms reacted on the fresh just a more rounded shape overall. Your explanation makes a lot of sense because I did notice how much easier my balls were getting through the fronts and in the past I struggled with that esp on the burn. Thanks for all of your help!!! I do really appreciate it a lot
4 5/8” —> x 1/4” ^ PAP
10* rotation
7* tilt
300 rpm’s
17 mph off my hand
Walkerman10000
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Member
Posts: 70
Joined: March 3rd, 2013, 1:56 pm
THS Average: 210
Sport Average: 200
Positive Axis Point: 4 5/8' ---> by 1/4" ^
Speed: 16 .3 mph off my hand
Rev Rate: 300
Axis Tilt: 7
Axis Rotation: 55
Heavy Oil Ball: 900 Global Reality
Medium Oil Ball: 900 Global Zen
Light Oil Ball: Roto Grip Hustle PBR
Preferred Company: SPI Brands
Contact:

Re: Layout advice

Post by Walkerman10000 »

Ok I need all of my layouts please with my new stats, I have dropped down in weight from 16 to 15lbs this season, and I’m drilling up a whole new 6 ball arsenal. I have updated stats now with the new weight and would like all of my new layout specs please even the sport condition layouts too since I bowl tournaments mostly and only bowl 1 league. My new stats are as follows:

330 rpms
7 degrees of axis tilt
10 degrees of rotation
17 mph off my hand
4 5/8 right x 1/4 up is my PAP

I was refitted recently and my pso made huge pitch changes in my fingers and thumb because I’ve lost a ton of flexibility in my fingers has I’ve gotten into my 40’s now, and so im not hardly rotating the ball anymore, and am way more up the back now than previously. As always thanks for your hard work Eric and I appreciate your efforts!
4 5/8” —> x 1/4” ^ PAP
10* rotation
7* tilt
300 rpm’s
17 mph off my hand
Walkerman10000
Member
Member
Posts: 70
Joined: March 3rd, 2013, 1:56 pm
THS Average: 210
Sport Average: 200
Positive Axis Point: 4 5/8' ---> by 1/4" ^
Speed: 16 .3 mph off my hand
Rev Rate: 300
Axis Tilt: 7
Axis Rotation: 55
Heavy Oil Ball: 900 Global Reality
Medium Oil Ball: 900 Global Zen
Light Oil Ball: Roto Grip Hustle PBR
Preferred Company: SPI Brands
Contact:

Re: Layout advice

Post by Walkerman10000 »

I pre ordered 2 optimum idols, what two layouts would you recommend I use with my new specs?
4 5/8” —> x 1/4” ^ PAP
10* rotation
7* tilt
300 rpm’s
17 mph off my hand
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Positive Axis Point: 4-3/4" and 1/2"up
Speed: 16 off hand
Rev Rate: 330
Axis Tilt: 12
Axis Rotation: 45
Heavy Oil Ball: Radical Tremendous, EVO solid, Hammer Obsession
Medium Oil Ball: EVO pearl, True Motion, Columbia Command, DV8 Intimidator
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Re: Layout advice

Post by EricHartwell »

Sorry I haven't had the time to a complete workup for you.
Here we go..

330 rpms
7 degrees of axis tilt
10 degrees of rotation
17 mph off my hand
4 5/8 right x 1/4 up is my PAP

Low Tilt and Low Rotation
Sweetspot 110* Totals and 2.5:1 Ratio

Asymmetrical Layouts
Totally Strong ............ 70-4.5-20
Midlane .................... 60-4-30
Benchmark ................ 80-3-30
Long and Strong .......... 90-2.5-25
Control ..................... 80-3-50
low flare ................... 90-1.5-30

Symmetrical Layouts
Benchmark ................ xx-4-25
Control .................... xx-4.5-45 Pin in the Ring finger
low flare ..................xx-5-25

The optimum Idol is a Symmetrical you have 3 choices there.
I would Shine one of them and put the Benchmark on it.
The other I would play factory dull with the control layout on it.
Eric Hartwell

Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
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