I'm slightly familiar with full roller vs over rolled full rollers, but I'm curious if in today's modern game, without balance holes, and for 2 handers who don't use thumb holes... does it matter?
Assuming the bowler has 0* tilt, tracks between the fingers and where a "hypothetical" thumb would be, since there is no risk of flaring over a thumb hole that doesn't exist, do we not need to care about altering the layout? Do you just use the typical dual angle methods?
Do 2 handers ever use a full roller layout, where they would place the pin at 7 o'clock and using distance from the track to dictate shape? If so what type of reaction should they expect?
I've been searching the wiki and the forum, but almost all of the full roller stuff is outdated, for 1 handed bowlers with thumb holes, layouts that use weight holes to solve the problem etc.
I'd like to learn more about the growing world of 2 handers and no thumb bowlers, who flirt with 0* of tilt, and how to most effectively layout the ball for them.
Yes, I understand correcting their tilt with lessons and pitches is the "right" answer, but I'm interested in what the layout, ball choice, core dynamics, are to best suit them.
Do 2 handed full rollers exist, and does it matter?
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Re: Do 2 handed full rollers exist, and does it matter?
I realize this is a very late reply and you may have already gotten an answer but I figured you needed some kind of closure and was actually trying to learn the same thing although for a different reason. I am two handed and I’m not a full roller but I am the definition of “flirting with it.” The first oil ring on a full roller can be measured 13.5 inches across the ball, and the first oil ring on my ball is 13.25 inches. So I’m extremely close to being a full roller. I don’t know much right now bc I just figured it out but I will say it hasn’t effected ball motion much like it would with a one hander, all it does is it makes bowling balls roll and stand up very quick. The biggest problem it’s presented for me is with carry, and I struggle on broken down and burnt patterns bc I can’t really get the ball as far down lane as I would want bc of my tilt and rev rate. But I will say I’ve hard a lot more success with weaker layouts or just layouts with long/tall pins. Idk if that helps you any but I hope I was able to give you some kind of closure.