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by jegreco516
August 8th, 2021, 3:18 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

As Lt Columbo would say One more thing ... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYgUPD2khtw I don't think this was mentioned Thumb pitch and size test test occurs about 1:35 into the video by Ron Hoppe http://forum.bowlingchat.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11289&p=87606&hilit=Added#p87606 Yea I can’...
by jegreco516
August 6th, 2021, 2:17 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

I have often advised bowlers to study the elite lady bowlers. In simple terms, most of them have to be technically proficient which is not to say the men aren't. The elite are elegant athletes using the laws of physics and not fighting them. Another study philosopy is to find elite bowlers with you...
by jegreco516
August 6th, 2021, 2:36 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

I hate to say this, but bowlers are some of the weakest athletes in the world. On television they appear fairly normal, but in person they can be quite thin. People will see someone like E.J. Tackett and wonder how he develops such tremendous power. Michael Fagan is thin as a rail. So, where do the...
by jegreco516
August 5th, 2021, 10:01 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

Opinion and impression. This case is one example of the complexities or challenges of our sport. The creator of this thread jegreco516 is a much stronger than average man, yet he is vexed by the fact we are the only sport where we insert fingers and or thumb inside the ball. He carries double his b...
by jegreco516
August 2nd, 2021, 2:23 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

One small thing is if you are anything like me I struggle with tape in the front of the thumb hole. I have very dry hands and do not sweat at all. So tape at the front causes tearing of my skin. What I do is drill the thumb hole round the width of the widest part of my thumb usually about 10 to 4 c...
by jegreco516
August 1st, 2021, 1:07 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

Tomahawks suggestion about tiering the thumb hole sounds like your best bet. Now if that concept could be applied to switch grips, that would be great! Don't give up. Have a discussion with your local pro shops first. If they really want to help but need assistance, refer them to Bowlingchat. We ha...
by jegreco516
July 31st, 2021, 9:45 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

You are not alone in your plight. Just my opinion, but thumb hole issues keep many bowlers from their potential and induce some to quit all together. You mentioned your strength on the farmers carry and thats very impressive. The rest of you is probably pretty dammed strong. Its ironic that your th...
by jegreco516
July 31st, 2021, 8:14 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

Additional references Take a look at this product, you might also use the concept as an interim measure https://www.bowlingindex.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BI&Product_Code=GR-ThStr&Category_Code= A thread on taping, including a tiered system http://forum.bowlingchat.n...
by jegreco516
July 30th, 2021, 12:51 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

MegaMav eluded to something that may be somewhat of importance, your thumb could be shaped like a cone. That is another "if". I have seen the base of the thumb be as much as four sizes bigger than the tip. If that were to be the case, your thumb hole would require a method of drilling cal...
by jegreco516
July 29th, 2021, 9:27 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

Most dont know what a good fit feels like, but if thats the case then it's likely not enough tape OR the tape is too low in the ball. Also try tackier tapes like VISE Proformance tape. You can find sample packs to get the correct drag for you. Based on your pictures, your thumb isnt seated all the ...
by jegreco516
July 29th, 2021, 5:42 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

Pitch isnt arbitrary. It's anatomical. Finding a pro shop with a reputation of fitting properly is the cheapest way. This isnt something to go it alone. Go into the wiki here and look at the fitting guide as a good starting point. http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=File:MorichFitting....
by jegreco516
July 29th, 2021, 5:39 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

Tagging along to the comments made on your hands characteristics The good PSO'S will physically examine your hand, finger flexibility , skin texture, sizes, any unique characteristics. J R Raymond has some good videos. In this video, he illustrates the direction your thumb should be applying pressu...
by jegreco516
July 29th, 2021, 5:34 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

Tomahawks post came in while I was finishing my last blurb. Regarding his good points about some balls feeling heavier. Grab a dumbbell (not me) , now offset your hand to the extreme left or right, notice how different it feels than when you hold it dead center. Caveat, A guy as strong as you, may ...
by jegreco516
July 29th, 2021, 5:31 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

Some bowling balls, I can't explain why, just feel heavier than others. Theory, it is because of the core orientation or where the "weights" of the ball are located. Looking at your grip stats, the reverse pitches in your fingers might be a little extreme, it depends on the type of insert...
by jegreco516
July 29th, 2021, 3:22 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

Pitch manipulation can be done in conjunction with span adjustments. When you have stiff joints you have to bend the second knuckle to compensate, many fitters fear going too short with the span... but closing the hand will help with reducing the pressure. Okay, good to know. If I were to go into a...
by jegreco516
July 29th, 2021, 2:38 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

I am wondering if I just need forward pitch to have the ball be easier to hold onto. I have been wondering this for awhile but have never done it because my pro shop says that my finger inflexibility (ring and middle) won't allow for a lot of forward pitch. Thoughts?
by jegreco516
July 29th, 2021, 2:18 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

From the pics, the fit appears to be pretty good. What we can't really determine is your hand flexibility and structure. If you have a wide hand, stiff joints, or both, you might need some sort of offset thumb. One other note, most bowlers who put their thumb all the way in the ball will have a ver...
by jegreco516
July 28th, 2021, 5:29 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Re: Ball Fit Advice

Two cents - See if this helps a little. In the stance, squeeze the ball a few seconds then relax. Try th I first with a few 1 step foul line drills as a safety measure. This is an old "trick" I read many moons ago. Good luck! Thanks for the info. I have watched the Duke series more times ...
by jegreco516
July 28th, 2021, 3:35 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Ball Fit Advice
Replies: 39
Views: 5965

Ball Fit Advice

Hi all, I have a question about my ball fit. Despite having several fitting evaluations and adjustments, I am still having trouble with my fit. No matter what I do, I still cannot seem to relax my hand and minimize grip pressure. I have had lessons about where to apply finger/thumb pressure and have...
by jegreco516
April 16th, 2021, 1:47 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Modifying Two-Handed Technique
Replies: 11
Views: 3147

Re: Modifying Two-Handed Technique

TomaHawk wrote: April 16th, 2021, 11:57 am Yes, it is possible that you (personally) could use a shorter span.
Okay I will give that a shot