How does the ball keep the pins low.
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How does the ball keep the pins low.
"This ball really keeps the pins low"
I've heard this statement many times over the years about this ball or that ball. Then someone asked why and I got thinking about it.
What is suppose to be keeping the pins low? is it some property of the ball? or the angle, speed of the ball as it hits?
Or is it just marketing?
I've heard this statement many times over the years about this ball or that ball. Then someone asked why and I got thinking about it.
What is suppose to be keeping the pins low? is it some property of the ball? or the angle, speed of the ball as it hits?
Or is it just marketing?
Last edited by bowl1820 on October 27th, 2012, 2:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: How does a ball keep the pins low.
bowl1820 wrote:"This ball really keeps the pins low"
I've heard this statement many times over the years about this ball or that ball. Then someone asked why and I got thinking about it.
What is suppose to be keeping the pins low? is it some property of the ball? or the angle, speed of the ball as it hits?
Or is it just marketing?
The balls doesn't keep the pins low; GRAVITY DOES!!!
The rest is BULL PUCKY!!!!!
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Re: How does a ball keep the pins low.
Thanks Mo! I had heard that so many times and seen it in reviews. It never dawned on me to ask just what the heck it was supposed to be doing.Mo Pinel wrote:
The balls doesn't keep the pins low; GRAVITY DOES!!!
The rest is BULL PUCKY!!!!!
I figure "This ball carries the corners better too" fits in there some where also.
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Re: How does a ball keep the pins low.
Sounds like "marketing"...otherwise known as "lying". People repeat what they hear others say...the "others" being whichever ball company is using that description to market their product. My favorites are "continuation through the pins", "kicks out the corners better than my old ball", and "keeps the pins low". Another one is "this ball hits harder". What the hell does that mean? Did you throw it harder? Did it sprout an arm midway down the lane and punch the head pin before it rolled through the pin deck? I find myself biting my lip every week during league when talking about different equipment. I hear these statements all the time and it's all I can do to keep my mouth shut and not offend anyone by pointing out how crazy these statements are.
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Re: How does a ball keep the pins low.
It may be imaginary, but I believe that my LevRG hits harder than my RipR. I weighed them and the RipR is actually 1/2 oz. heavier than the LevRG. My teammates will tell you that they see and hear the same difference that I do, louder impact with the pins, more energy imparted to the pins. We are talking about the same delivery, slightly different path but the same entry angle. After three straight ringing 10's, I switched from the RipR to the LevRG, moved 2 and 1 right and hit the pocket 8 times before leaving another 10 pin. Is it not right to say it hit harder?
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Re: How does a ball keep the pins low.
smokymountain wrote:It may be imaginary, but I believe that my LevRG hits harder than my RipR. I weighed them and the RipR is actually 1/2 oz. heavier than the LevRG. My teammates will tell you that they see and hear the same difference that I do, louder impact with the pins, more energy imparted to the pins. We are talking about the same delivery, slightly different path but the same entry angle. After three straight ringing 10's, I switched from the RipR to the LevRG, moved 2 and 1 right and hit the pocket 8 times before leaving another 10 pin. Is it not right to say it hit harder?
How about "Right now, on this condition, my LevRg is a better solution to knocking over all 10 pins than my RipR".
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Re: How does a ball keep the pins low.
I often pick which ball I will start with based on how loud I think I hear it hit the pins in warm ups (imaginary or not). Change the oil a little and they might reverse reactions. I think it has a lot to do with how the skid/hook/ roll is matching up to the conditions on that particular night. Mo always says strong is weak on dry,etc..smokymountain wrote:It may be imaginary, but I believe that my LevRG hits harder than my RipR. I weighed them and the RipR is actually 1/2 oz. heavier than the LevRG. My teammates will tell you that they see and hear the same difference that I do, louder impact with the pins, more energy imparted to the pins. We are talking about the same delivery, slightly different path but the same entry angle. After three straight ringing 10's, I switched from the RipR to the LevRG, moved 2 and 1 right and hit the pocket 8 times before leaving another 10 pin. Is it not right to say it hit harder?
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Re: How does a ball keep the pins low.
In that case the LevRG matched up better than the RipR. On other occasions, on different conditions, it may be the other way around.smokymountain wrote:It may be imaginary, but I believe that my LevRG hits harder than my RipR. I weighed them and the RipR is actually 1/2 oz. heavier than the LevRG. My teammates will tell you that they see and hear the same difference that I do, louder impact with the pins, more energy imparted to the pins. We are talking about the same delivery, slightly different path but the same entry angle. After three straight ringing 10's, I switched from the RipR to the LevRG, moved 2 and 1 right and hit the pocket 8 times before leaving another 10 pin. Is it not right to say it hit harder?
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Re: How does a ball keep the pins low.
COuld also be that the fit in one of the balls is slightly different and account for a slightly better roll profile.
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Re: How does the ball keep the pins low.
Any credence to the statement ?
Assuming good angle of entry and stage of precession ...
"the tilted axis strongly increases the the opportunity to strike by the nature of it's position, which if properly taken, will cause the pins that are hit (1-3-5) to move off the lane not only in an ideal direction (more sideways) but also in a more opportunistic way (horizontally)."
Fact, fiction, an archaic vestige of theory?
Assuming good angle of entry and stage of precession ...
"the tilted axis strongly increases the the opportunity to strike by the nature of it's position, which if properly taken, will cause the pins that are hit (1-3-5) to move off the lane not only in an ideal direction (more sideways) but also in a more opportunistic way (horizontally)."
Fact, fiction, an archaic vestige of theory?
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Re: How does the ball keep the pins low.
In the ol' days, I thought low rolling track kept pins lows vs. higher track...
kinda like pins exiting horizontally vs. vertically.
kinda like pins exiting horizontally vs. vertically.
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