Layouts for Transition

Which layout is right for me?

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Layouts for Transition

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I have a lot of balls that have layouts that Eric Hartwell suggested....Benchmark....Long and Strong.....Control...and Midlane....I really like these layouts especially the Benchmark and the Control layouts....My question is when I get to fist and second transition these layouts aren't as good sometimes the long and Strong is OK but not always....My PSO has suggested layouts with longer pins such as 4 1/2 inch pin on Symetrical balls and 4 3/4 to 5 1/4 inch on Asymmetric balls...I have an Infinite Physix that was given to me....it is plugged....if I leave the layout the same it will come out to 53 × 4 3/4 × 42...also there is a Wolverine that if I leave the layout will be 65 x 4 5/8× 41...what do you guys think
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Re: Layouts for Transition

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jobowl wrote: November 21st, 2022, 9:21 pm I have a lot of balls that have layouts that Eric Hartwell suggested....Benchmark....Long and Strong.....Control...and Midlane....I really like these layouts especially the Benchmark and the Control layouts....My question is when I get to fist and second transition these layouts aren't as good sometimes the long and Strong is OK but not always....My PSO has suggested layouts with longer pins such as 4 1/2 inch pin on Symetrical balls and 4 3/4 to 5 1/4 inch on Asymmetric balls...I have an Infinite Physix that was given to me....it is plugged....if I leave the layout the same it will come out to 53 × 4 3/4 × 42...also there is a Wolverine that if I leave the layout will be 65 x 4 5/8× 41...what do you guys think
You took me down memory lane.
Went back and started reading posts from 2015.

I somewhat agree with your PSO recommending longer Pin to PAPs for filling in the basic arsenal.
I would actually recommend even longer Pin to PAP for Symmetricals, up to 5".
I would not go over 5 " for Asymmetricals.

With that said, the Balls you have acquired Wolverine (Symmetrical High Differential) and the Physics (Strong Asym)
with the existing layouts look pretty good.

Physics .......... 53-4 3/4-42 .. 95* Totals ..... 1.26:1 Ratio Pin above the Bridge
A strong Control layout with a more forward rolling Pin to PAP.
When the lanes are just giving you too much backend, too much continuation, over hooking

Wolverine .......... 80-4 5/8-41 .............. Symmetrical reduced flare Control layout ... Pin above the Bridge
Drill the Ring finger to 4" deep to reduce the flare a little bit more.
For higher friction conditions shiny surface, Dull surface for fresh, wet/dry type conditions
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