Could use some help with layouts.
Pap: 4 1/2 O 3/4up
Balls speed:17mph
Axis roation:55 degrees
Axis tilt: 3 degrees
ReV Rate: 420
Span:4 1/8 both fingers
Finger pitches
LF: 3/8 LT, 1/2 REV
RF: 3/8 RT, 3/8 REV
Thumb pitches.1/8fwd-1/8 left
Any help would be great.
Struggling ball shape
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Re: Struggling ball shape
They’ll need what type of lanes, oil length, sport THS etc.. to help.
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Re: Struggling ball shape
He is a very versatile player, but postly looking for help patters. He is strong on the fresh,and he has no problem geting in front of ball return and creating rotation, but his ball shape can start to be hit or Miss later in the blocks. He has cashed in multiple reginals, so he does have the ability.
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- Positive Axis Point: 4-3/4" and 1/2"up
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- Rev Rate: 330
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- Axis Rotation: 45
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Re: Struggling ball shape
How is the speed measured?Moffettcomp wrote:Could use some help with layouts.
Pap: 4 1/2 O 3/4up
Balls speed:17mph
Axis roation:55 degrees
Axis tilt: 3 degrees
ReV Rate: 420
Span:4 1/8 both fingers
Finger pitches
LF: 3/8 LT, 1/2 REV
RF: 3/8 RT, 3/8 REV
Thumb pitches.1/8fwd-1/8 left
Any help would be great.
Eric Hartwell
Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
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Re: Struggling ball shape
Scoring monitor down lane.
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- Positive Axis Point: 4-3/4" and 1/2"up
- Speed: 16 off hand
- Rev Rate: 330
- Axis Tilt: 12
- Axis Rotation: 45
- Heavy Oil Ball: Radical Tremendous, EVO solid, Hammer Obsession
- Medium Oil Ball: EVO pearl, True Motion, Columbia Command, DV8 Intimidator
- Light Oil Ball: Blue Hammer
- Location: Michigan
Re: Struggling ball shape
Matched Speed to Revs very low tilt and med rotation.Moffettcomp wrote:Could use some help with layouts.
Pap: 4 1/2 O 3/4up
Balls speed:17mph
Axis roation:55 degrees
Axis tilt: 3 degrees
ReV Rate: 420
Span:4 1/8 both fingers
Finger pitches
LF: 3/8 LT, 1/2 REV
RF: 3/8 RT, 3/8 REV
Thumb pitches.1/8fwd-1/8 left
Any help would be great.
Sweetspot 105* totals 2.75:1 Ratio
Asymmetrical Layouts ....
Totally Strong ............65-4-20
Midlane .................... 55-4-30
Benchmark ............... 75-3-30
Long and Strong ....... 90-3-30
Control .................... 75-4-50 pin in the ring finger
low flare .................. 90-2-30
Symmetrical layouts ....
Benchmark .............. xx-4.5-25
Control .................... xx-4.75-40 pin above the bridge
low flare .................. xx-5.5-40
Eric Hartwell
Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
Re: Struggling ball shape
Since most of the above I believe comes from Mo's teachings I notices that in his latest video he said he never recommends pin to pap distances under 3.5 except when he goes for the low flare option of 90x2 1/4×45 layout
thought it was interesting that he never recommends anything above 5.5. under 3/4 or between 2 1/4 and 3.5. I'd love to know the reasoning why nothing between 2 1/4 and 3.5
thought it was interesting that he never recommends anything above 5.5. under 3/4 or between 2 1/4 and 3.5. I'd love to know the reasoning why nothing between 2 1/4 and 3.5
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- Speed: 16 off hand
- Rev Rate: 330
- Axis Tilt: 12
- Axis Rotation: 45
- Heavy Oil Ball: Radical Tremendous, EVO solid, Hammer Obsession
- Medium Oil Ball: EVO pearl, True Motion, Columbia Command, DV8 Intimidator
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Re: Struggling ball shape
Can you post a link to this latest video?gunso wrote:Since most of the above I believe comes from Mo's teachings I notices that in his latest video he said he never recommends pin to pap distances under 3.5 except when he goes for the low flare option of 90x2 1/4×45 layout
thought it was interesting that he never recommends anything above 5.5. under 3/4 or between 2 1/4 and 3.5. I'd love to know the reasoning why nothing between 2 1/4 and 3.5
True, most of what I recommend comes from Mo's teachings. But I am not Mo and some of what I recommend is from my own experience.
Eric Hartwell
Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
Re: Struggling ball shape
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