My low game in both leagues this year was the first game. So I am looking to improve my first game ball reaction. On the left side with fresh oil, it plays sort of sport pattern like with not much miss room. The ball that works later in the 2nd game and 3rd is a bit too skid flip in the first game.
Are there some general rules of thumb for a controlled ball for the first game? My ForzaGT with a large Val angle (70) was controllable, but maybe not fully transitioning? Do I want high flare for fresh oil? Do I want lower RG to read the lane sooner? Just trying to learn any General ball principles for this situation in order to make a good choice for the next ball. Thanks!
First ball out on freshly oiled house shot
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First ball out on freshly oiled house shot
Left Handed, 15 lb
PAP 4.5” up 1/2"
~60* rotation
~17* tilt
~250 RPM
~15 mph off hand
PAP 4.5” up 1/2"
~60* rotation
~17* tilt
~250 RPM
~15 mph off hand
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Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot
It takes me three games to get anywhere near my normal score!todvan wrote:My low game in both leagues this year was the first game. So I am looking to improve my first game ball reaction. On the left side with fresh oil, it plays sort of sport pattern like with not much miss room. The ball that works later in the 2nd game and 3rd is a bit too skid flip in the first game.
Are there some general rules of thumb for a controlled ball for the first game? My ForzaGT with a large Val angle (70) was controllable, but maybe not fully transitioning? Do I want high flare for fresh oil? Do I want lower RG to read the lane sooner? Just trying to learn any General ball principles for this situation in order to make a good choice for the next ball. Thanks!
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Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot
Have you tried surface? What is your strategy, down and in, small swing etc.. on the fresh?todvan wrote:My low game in both leagues this year was the first game. So I am looking to improve my first game ball reaction. On the left side with fresh oil, it plays sort of sport pattern like with not much miss room. The ball that works later in the 2nd game and 3rd is a bit too skid flip in the first game.
Are there some general rules of thumb for a controlled ball for the first game? My ForzaGT with a large Val angle (70) was controllable, but maybe not fully transitioning? Do I want high flare for fresh oil? Do I want lower RG to read the lane sooner? Just trying to learn any General ball principles for this situation in order to make a good choice for the next ball. Thanks!
Stacy
Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot
I guess I am leaning towards a bit stronger ball with a bit lower Val angle...pin in ring finer instead of below...unless there are any other ideas?
Left Handed, 15 lb
PAP 4.5” up 1/2"
~60* rotation
~17* tilt
~250 RPM
~15 mph off hand
PAP 4.5” up 1/2"
~60* rotation
~17* tilt
~250 RPM
~15 mph off hand
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Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot
Well since you don’t want to have a discussion on your game, I would advise a Strong Asymmetrical like a More Cash with a 70x3x30 to guarantee it comes in.
Stacy
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Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot
I am a fan of control drillings with dull surfaces for a first ball out of the bag. Remember fresh lane conditions also have fresh backends. No need for a ball to accentuate a strong backend reaction when the lanes are already giving it to you. This is right in line with your thinking with the larger VAL angle.todvan wrote:I guess I am leaning towards a bit stronger ball with a bit lower Val angle...pin in ring finer instead of below...unless there are any other ideas?
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PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot
Thank you Eric, you are very helpful.
Left Handed, 15 lb
PAP 4.5” up 1/2"
~60* rotation
~17* tilt
~250 RPM
~15 mph off hand
PAP 4.5” up 1/2"
~60* rotation
~17* tilt
~250 RPM
~15 mph off hand