Pattern for youth tourny
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- ICURNVS
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Pattern for youth tourny
This is the Pattern for a tournament my son will be bowling on this Sunday.. I am horrible at reading the graphs.
Anyone wanna take a look and give suggestions as to best way to attack early and later in the 5 game block..
http://nebula.wsimg.com/7c3876803e85430 ... oworigin=1
Anyone wanna take a look and give suggestions as to best way to attack early and later in the 5 game block..
http://nebula.wsimg.com/7c3876803e85430 ... oworigin=1
Last edited by ICURNVS on March 7th, 2018, 6:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
** UPDATED STATS AS OF 6-06-19 **
Right Hand
PAP 4 1/2-> 3/4 up
ROTATION 20 - 30
TILT 11.5*
MPH 14.5-15.2 MONITOR
RPM 350-375
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Right Hand
PAP 4 1/2-> 3/4 up
ROTATION 20 - 30
TILT 11.5*
MPH 14.5-15.2 MONITOR
RPM 350-375
RIP Visionary Bowling Products.....
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Re: Pattern for youth tounry
From what I gather:
42 Ft.
25.9 ml
1.7-1 on the left, 2.0-1 on the right
My analysis:
Mid-length pattern = anywhere on the lane may be playable depending on topography
Mid-volume pattern = any type of equipment may play depending on bowler style; 4 2-2 loads is neither light nor super heavy
Ratio less than 2-1 = TOUGH
Looking at the graph, it seems a bit asymmetrical - does the house have topography issues that favors lefties? To me, it looks like the right side of the pattern has a little shape to help them more than lefties. Overall though, it looks like a very tough pattern on paper.
42 Ft.
25.9 ml
1.7-1 on the left, 2.0-1 on the right
My analysis:
Mid-length pattern = anywhere on the lane may be playable depending on topography
Mid-volume pattern = any type of equipment may play depending on bowler style; 4 2-2 loads is neither light nor super heavy
Ratio less than 2-1 = TOUGH
Looking at the graph, it seems a bit asymmetrical - does the house have topography issues that favors lefties? To me, it looks like the right side of the pattern has a little shape to help them more than lefties. Overall though, it looks like a very tough pattern on paper.
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Re: Pattern for youth tounry
Total volume looks to be almost 33 mL. That is quite a bit, especially at that length (wood house?).
It also states there is one oiling for the day so not sure if they are preparing for more than one shift.
It also states there is one oiling for the day so not sure if they are preparing for more than one shift.
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Re: Pattern for youth tounry
WHOA. I only picked up the forward application, not the reverse - my bad. 33mL is HEAVY.spmcgivern wrote:Total volume looks to be almost 33 mL. That is quite a bit, especially at that length (wood house?).
It also states there is one oiling for the day so not sure if they are preparing for more than one shift.
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Re: Pattern for youth tounry
The Youth Tournaments my son bowls in uses various patterns, they also use a good bit of college patterns.
They are 1 day events with no reoils. The pattern sheet most likely had that reoil info because it was used at a college sectional event. Where there were multiple shifts.
Lanes this will be used on are synthetic. not sure of the age, but he has bowled here before and i do not remember them as being high friction.
They are 1 day events with no reoils. The pattern sheet most likely had that reoil info because it was used at a college sectional event. Where there were multiple shifts.
Lanes this will be used on are synthetic. not sure of the age, but he has bowled here before and i do not remember them as being high friction.
** UPDATED STATS AS OF 6-06-19 **
Right Hand
PAP 4 1/2-> 3/4 up
ROTATION 20 - 30
TILT 11.5*
MPH 14.5-15.2 MONITOR
RPM 350-375
RIP Visionary Bowling Products.....
Right Hand
PAP 4 1/2-> 3/4 up
ROTATION 20 - 30
TILT 11.5*
MPH 14.5-15.2 MONITOR
RPM 350-375
RIP Visionary Bowling Products.....
Re: Pattern for youth tounry
Here's some additional info
The color pattern graph of the lane pattern and the sport bowling calculations done at the time.
The complete 2017 Intercollegiate Team / Singles Championship Sectional Lane Maintenance Report can be seen here.
https://www.11thframe.com/pzn/blog/9244 ... report.pdf
The color pattern graph of the lane pattern and the sport bowling calculations done at the time.
The complete 2017 Intercollegiate Team / Singles Championship Sectional Lane Maintenance Report can be seen here.
https://www.11thframe.com/pzn/blog/9244 ... report.pdf
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Re: Pattern for youth tounry
There are no multiple shifts at sectionals. We bowl 16 baker games break for lunch then bowl another 16. We do this 2 days in a row which brings us to bowling 64 baker games in 2 two days. They oil in the morning and do not re oil again.ICURNVS wrote:The Youth Tournaments my son bowls in uses various patterns, they also use a good bit of college patterns.
They are 1 day events with no reoils. The pattern sheet most likely had that reoil info because it was used at a college sectional event. Where there were multiple shifts.
Lanes this will be used on are synthetic. not sure of the age, but he has bowled here before and i do not remember them as being high friction.
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Re: Pattern for youth tounry
Thanks for the Intel Zman.Zman06 wrote: There are no multiple shifts at sectionals. We bowl 16 baker games break for lunch then bowl another 16. We do this 2 days in a row which brings us to bowling 64 baker games in 2 two days. They oil in the morning and do not re oil again.
** UPDATED STATS AS OF 6-06-19 **
Right Hand
PAP 4 1/2-> 3/4 up
ROTATION 20 - 30
TILT 11.5*
MPH 14.5-15.2 MONITOR
RPM 350-375
RIP Visionary Bowling Products.....
Right Hand
PAP 4 1/2-> 3/4 up
ROTATION 20 - 30
TILT 11.5*
MPH 14.5-15.2 MONITOR
RPM 350-375
RIP Visionary Bowling Products.....
- ICURNVS
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- THS Average: 220
- Positive Axis Point: 4 1/2 -> 3/4 up
- Speed: 16.8 Monitor
- Rev Rate: 350
- Axis Tilt: 11
- Axis Rotation: 30
- Heavy Oil Ball: Zen Master
- Medium Oil Ball: Power Torq / UFO Alert / Honey Badger Revival
- Light Oil Ball: Marvel Pearl / Stellar
- Preferred Company: What ever is on Sale
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Re: Pattern for youth tourny
Pattern played as tough as it looked. A lot of balls slamming the 3-6 pocket.
Scores in general were pretty low. My son went 163 164 174.. Then it started to transition and he got lost 128 125. missed the cut by 20 pins.
Still learning, the start was encouraging, but once adversity hit and he could not find the pocket his spare shooting went out the door too.
Scores in general were pretty low. My son went 163 164 174.. Then it started to transition and he got lost 128 125. missed the cut by 20 pins.
Still learning, the start was encouraging, but once adversity hit and he could not find the pocket his spare shooting went out the door too.
** UPDATED STATS AS OF 6-06-19 **
Right Hand
PAP 4 1/2-> 3/4 up
ROTATION 20 - 30
TILT 11.5*
MPH 14.5-15.2 MONITOR
RPM 350-375
RIP Visionary Bowling Products.....
Right Hand
PAP 4 1/2-> 3/4 up
ROTATION 20 - 30
TILT 11.5*
MPH 14.5-15.2 MONITOR
RPM 350-375
RIP Visionary Bowling Products.....
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Re: Pattern for youth tourny
If anyone is curious, this is was we bowled on in our section in Jersey.
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Re: Pattern for youth tourny
Its a bit late, but this is how the pattern looks like on the lane, in theory!ICURNVS wrote:This is the Pattern for a tournament my son will be bowling on this Sunday.. I am horrible at reading the graphs.
Anyone wanna take a look and give suggestions as to best way to attack early and later in the 5 game block..
http://nebula.wsimg.com/7c3876803e85430 ... oworigin=1
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