Super Old Ebonite Ball, Production Year??!!

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Super Old Ebonite Ball, Production Year??!!

Post by bowldave »

Hi!

I found and bought this ball on internet
Its completely scrats free and undrilled..
It belonged to an old lady who thought bought it about 30 years ago..
It had an old ebonite sign..
I found 2 others on ebay. a blue version and this one..
Only this one is totally new :D so pretty cool i think!
Who s got some information about it??!

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Early-mid eighties retail, sporting goods store ball. Seen the ball, know nothing about it, but would guess the ball is either polyester or hard rubber. definitely NOT a pro-line Ebonite ball.
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It really doesnt feel like polyester or plastic.. Its kinda 'soft', so i think rubber :)
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bowldave wrote:It really doesnt feel like polyester or plastic.. Its kinda 'soft', so i think rubber :)
I've got a White Dot from the late 70's that punched 84 on the durometer when new. Today it's softened up to a 72. I ended up checking it after the hold down clamps on my jig left indentations. While drilling the thumb slug, I left it clamped while the adhesive hardened, about an hour.

It's quite possible the plastic is softening due to age.
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Yep its a Kmart special! Kinda like the old galaxy 300's you could get one that said Ebonite or Brunswick on it.......lol
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Post by bowldave »

well got it... friend of mine has contact with ebonite veteran mike quitter :)

Good Morning Bettina:

Got the picture of the beautiful Ebonite Signature ball. How do you like the logo? We used that "E" for many, many years, even after we converted to the "flying E" logo.

I am not 100% positive, but I am about 95% positive that this is a hard rubber ball that we sold to the J.C. Penny Company in 1970 to 1980 time frame. The Ebonite Signature was converted to the Ebonite Personal 300 at J.C. Penny in about 1980. J.C. Penny continued to sell the Personal 300 until they went out of the bowling business in about 1993. They were my account. I loved to call on them because they're office was located in Mid-town Manhattan., New York City, USA. I love New York. It was nice to have a reason to go there a couple of times per year.

The Signature logo almost looks like the Delta Airlines logo. I'm very glad that they didn't make an issue out of this in 1970. I don't think that Ebonite could have afforded a lawsuit at that time.

Is the ball that your friend bought new? Never been drilled? A 35 to 45 year old bowling ball is cool to look at, but it isn't old enough to have any real value as an antique and it certainly wouldn't be very good on the lanes. However, If I owned a bowling center or a pro shop, I'd love to have this ball on display as a conversation piece. I would not drill it as that would hurt any future value that it may have as an antique....in 30 to 40 more years.

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I have a red Ebonite Personal 300 that I got from JC Penney in the early 80's. Even with an Ebonite Puma (newest version) and a Motiv Thrill in my bag, my go to ball is the Personal 300. I can hook it and shoot spares with it. I've been trying to wean myself off of it, but I always go back to using it. I bowl in a league on medium to dry conditions.
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