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 Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:16 pm Post Number: #1 Post
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How does a bowler know if their fit is good enough? It's impossible to bowl well consistently without a good fit; but at what point should a bowler know that their fit is good enough and they simply need more practice to improve?


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 Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:16 pm Post Number: #2 Post
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ModernGame wrote:
How does a bowler know if their fit is good enough? It's impossible to bowl well consistently without a good fit; but at what point should a bowler know that their fit is good enough and they simply need more practice to improve?

When is a fit good enough? Why have it good when you can have it good enough, just kidding.

It is good enough when you don't tear up your thumb or fingers. You don't have pain in your hand or wrist. You don't feel like you are going to drop the ball in your backswing. You are not squeezing the ball. You should be able to let the ball hang at your side for an extended period of time without feeling any fatigue in your hand. It will feel like the ball is hanging on to you rather than the other way around.

A good fit will have the thumb hole shaped to the contours of your thumb. This can be an oval drill, carved, sanded, tape to create the shape or any combination of these.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:01 am Post Number: #3 Post
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Fit is something that will keep changing as your game changes and as your hand changes, for kids every three months is a good time range to check for growth, for adults checking your fit once a year will work. Comfort is number one, bowling should not hurt. The goal of a good fit is to eliminate grip pressure. I am currently using the most comfortable fit I have ever had, it was recommended by coach Del Warren but keep in mind I am a no thumb two hander: 3/8 both laterals (would be different for crooked fingers) and 1.25" reverse conventional depth, no inserts, plenty of bevel 3/8 bridge.


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 Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:27 pm Post Number: #4 Post
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A good fit or relatively good fit will free me from worrying

1. the ball will drop off during the course of swing;
2. the ball can't be released from my hand at the foul line

It also has smaller chance of
3. developing callous around thumb or fingers (viewtopic.php?f=13&t=13516. Obviously my new switching thumb hole is not fit enough)
4. having swollen thumb or fingers

I worked out my fit following the Wiki fit 2 years ago (thanks TonyPR), and based on that, did some adjustment subsequently.

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10660&hilit=wiki+fit

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 Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:53 am Post Number: #5 Post
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When is the fit "good enough":

EricHartwell wrote:
It is good enough when you don't tear up your thumb or fingers. You don't have pain in your hand or wrist. You don't feel like you are going to drop the ball in your backswing. You are not squeezing the ball. You should be able to let the ball hang at your side for an extended period of time without feeling any fatigue in your hand. It will feel like the ball is hanging on to you rather than the other way around.

A good fit will have the thumb hole shaped to the contours of your thumb. This can be an oval drill, carved, sanded, tape to create the shape or any combination of these


TonyPR wrote:
Comfort is number one, bowling should not hurt. The goal of a good fit is to eliminate grip pressure. I


When does the bowler have "THE FIT"?- no definitive answer but THE FIT includes the above plus whatever "the extra" is. For most bowlers, they know it when they feel it. This FIT, in most cases, comes after many, many fittings by various pro shop technicians. I suggest you go to as many pro shop technicians with experience and education/training and get as many perspectives as possible including some of the recognized masters. Remember: ALL pro shop technicians are a product of their education, training and experiences. They are, like all of us, biased to their given perspective. Seek out the ones who have the most education/training (the understanding of different methodologies), experience AND demonstrate the mental construct of OPEN MINDEDNESS. These are the pro shop professionals who will, more than likely, get you to THE FIT.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:04 pm Post Number: #6 Post
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EricHartwell wrote:
You don't have pain in your hand or wrist.

Bowling should not hurt of course but how about after bowling? I have been lately bowling more that earlier have had some wrist pain after bowling. Especially during night time and mornings.

But how to know if that is caused by bad fit or that just normal which happens when start bowling more than usual?

I still can bowl normally and without pain as long I make sure that I use enough time to warm up before bowling.


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 Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:59 pm Post Number: #7 Post
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Knowing when your fit is right is a hard thing to tell. This is because you don't know, what you don't know. First sign is if there is any excessive rubbing, excessive callousing, tearing of the skin, or pain when holding, swinging, and releasing the ball. For beginning bowlers, if you don't have any of these issues then you will have a pretty decent grip to work with and progress your game. I think the biggest issue is that most people probably have a thumb that is too big and too much reverse pitch. This will usually cause squeezing. Most people think they don't squeeze and have no idea they do squeeze. Most drillers will do this to allow the average bowler to get out of the ball easily the first time without multiple fitting and tries. A proper thumb fit is one that is snug and a thumb angle that has the ball hold onto you vs you holding onto the ball. Once you have a proper thumb fit and pitch it is like a night and day difference between the feel. I must warn you that it might be difficult finding the perfect thumb fit and pitch. You will also probably drop your average score for while, hang up as you learn to not squeeze, and also get frustrated if you can't find the perfect fit right away. I got a snug, correct fitting thumb first and then modified my thumb pitch so that the ball held onto me with minimal pressure and I was still able to release the ball cleanly. I have a unique thumb pitch so I probably tried 10 to 20 different pitch and span combinations until I found something that worked well. But then again I got to the same point as your post.... is the fit good enough, or can it be better?

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 Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:05 am Post Number: #8 Post
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LittleTiger wrote:
Bowling should not hurt of course but how about after bowling? I have been lately bowling more that earlier have had some wrist pain after bowling. Especially during night time and mornings.

But how to know if that is caused by bad fit or that just normal which happens when start bowling more than usual?

I still can bowl normally and without pain as long I make sure that I use enough time to warm up before bowling.


Wrist pain usually isn't your grip, unless your grip has your hand really contorted so that you feel the pain when you support the ball or cock your wrist. If you can put your hand in the ball, get in a ready position, and cock your wrist up and to the inside without any sharp pain, then I would say it isn't a fit issue causing the wrist pain.

Also check that you are not hanging up at release. Sometimes if your fit is off, you will have to put your hand and wrist in a weird position at release to make sure you can get the ball off your hand. That is another thing that can cause unusual pain. If that is the case, go see your pro shop and figure out why you are hanging up in the ball.

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