I would like to know what happens to the surface of a ball, if you put polish on top.
Will you cut off the peaks, or fill up the valleys with it to generate a lower surface grit.
Thanks for help.
Polish - what happens to the surface?
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Re: Polish - what happens to the surface?
Most polish is no different than using abralon or any other abrasive. Of the choices you provided, polish will reduce the "peaks".
If I remember correctly, you have two important values, Ra and Rs. These are the measurements of the peaks and valleys. Lower grit abrasives make these values further apart while finer grits (polish) make them closer to each other. Big teeth versus little teeth.
If I remember correctly, you have two important values, Ra and Rs. These are the measurements of the peaks and valleys. Lower grit abrasives make these values further apart while finer grits (polish) make them closer to each other. Big teeth versus little teeth.
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Re: Polish - what happens to the surface?
I think when polishing the ball, the cloth itself acts like a fine abrasive.
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Re: Polish - what happens to the surface?
It turns the microscopic mountain peaks into plateaus.MatthiasScheinert wrote:I would like to know what happens to the surface of a ball, if you put polish on top.
Will you cut off the peaks, or fill up the valleys with it to generate a lower surface grit.
Thanks for help.
It's kind of like getting the fingernails trimmed, so it can't dig as deep into the oil to read friction.
That means the ball won't make contact with the lane until it's riding on a thinner layer of oil.
The best clue is how light reflects off the surface.
With a freshly sanded ball, the sides of the "mountains" are pointing at many different directions so light is scattered making the surface look dull.
By polishing, the plateaus created are all pointing away from the center of the ball, so light will reflect in an organized manor. The more light you receive off the ball, the more shiny you perceive it to be.
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Re: Polish - what happens to the surface?
I rarely use polish. I go to tournaments and bowl league in many different centers and lane surfaces. I have rarely had to use over 2000 grit surface. most of the time I start at 1000-2000 . this is what works for me. most of the time.
since I dont use polish much I don't know which polish is best to use on a ball. to me sounds like what you are saying is polish is an abrasive. fine abrasive, but, nonetheless an abrasive.
how does polish compare to buffing compound? to me polish is a gloss "coating" that has the least friction coefficient of any surface coating. 4000 grit sandpaper looks like polish but, obviously isn not.
my questions:
1) what is the best polish to use?
2) what polish should you avoid?
3) what cleaners are best and are they really ball manufacturers specific?
I dont want to use something that counteracts the coverstock design.
since I dont use polish much I don't know which polish is best to use on a ball. to me sounds like what you are saying is polish is an abrasive. fine abrasive, but, nonetheless an abrasive.
how does polish compare to buffing compound? to me polish is a gloss "coating" that has the least friction coefficient of any surface coating. 4000 grit sandpaper looks like polish but, obviously isn not.
my questions:
1) what is the best polish to use?
2) what polish should you avoid?
3) what cleaners are best and are they really ball manufacturers specific?
I dont want to use something that counteracts the coverstock design.
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I use Storm Xtra Shine in the shop to create a smooth gloss finish.
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Re: Polish - what happens to the surface?
It is all personal preference. You may need to talk to your pro shop or other bowlers to see what they like. Ultimately, since you haven't used polish before, I would probably stay away from it until you have exhausted all your abralon type options.
If you are just wanting more information, then you would have to research each product. They are all different, yet have the same goal for the most part. And if you have access to a ball scanner, you can really figure out the differences in polish and application of polish.
If you are just wanting more information, then you would have to research each product. They are all different, yet have the same goal for the most part. And if you have access to a ball scanner, you can really figure out the differences in polish and application of polish.
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Re: Polish - what happens to the surface?
yea,
I was just attempting to tap those who maybe have tried sever different products to see what the consensus is.
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I was just attempting to tap those who maybe have tried sever different products to see what the consensus is.
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Re: Polish - what happens to the surface?
Because of the bizzare weather in Vegas during the summer (ever tried to bowl in an oven?), I tend to use a lot of polished equipment when the humidity is down, and more surface when the monsoons pop up to raise the humidity. For a high gloss finish, I really like the Powerhouse Factory Finish, and for a lighter polish, I lean to the Motiv Power Gel Polish.