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 Post subject: Re: When Did YOUR ball die?
 Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:59 pm Post Number: #21 Post
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My Timeless, a hybrid from Storm seems to have lost its bite after about 6 months, lot a games though between league and practice. After 6 months I removed some oil myself with hot water, had the cover resurfaced back to the factory according to Storm etc. This helped a little but still does not react like new. Now I have to play further right that I normally like to play. I even tried some surface on like 2000 grit. That also helps a little as it reads the lanes earlier. But after a few frames it reacts later and later.

On the other hand my Punch Out, a lower level pearl from Storm bought a year before the Timeless and a lot more games on it seems to have gotten better over time, go figure. It is a hooking monster; still stores a lot of energy perhaps due to the pearl cover.

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 Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:23 pm Post Number: #22 Post
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I don't have any experience with the Timeless, so no idea where it falls on the durability or absorbency scale.

A little soap and hot (tap) water may have done relatively little in terms of oil removal. I find that some equipment needs multiple sessions in the personal Revivor, baking for 3+ hours total, wiping the ball and spray cleaning every 15 minutes or so before the cover has given up most (but not all) of the oil. It's literally dripping with oil the entire time.

Many people report good results with soap and water, dishwashers, etc - but you might want to find a Detox (ultrasonic!) or a commercial Revivor that can maintain consistent heat (125-135F) for a sustained period of time.

It really depends on the ball. Some stuff is not that absorbent, and other things (like my Paradox) is a sponge. That ball has hundreds of games on it and still has a great reaction once cleaned up, which I do every 40 or 50 games.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:13 am Post Number: #23 Post
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What about a ball with compound on it? I have a ridiculous and it was 500 grit and then compounded on it. Does that compound wear down just as fast as the other surface? I think the compound puts like 1500 or 2500 on it. I have about 21 games on it without changing the surface but it still acts like it did when I got it done the first time. I want to get that thing fixed back to normal but compound looks like it is difficult to put on. You have to do it in 6 sides of the ball and then go back and wipe it back down or something.

The only balls that die have been ones that have cracked. I have had about 3-4 crack. I have retired balls after 3 or less games because I couldn't get them to hook at all. I didn't know what was I was doing and this was way back. I don't see now why a ball should be retired unless it has been resurfaced a few times (so far I haven't ever fully resurfaced a ball), have a crack in it, or like 10 years old and lane conditions have changed. I have a Brunswick Zone X low differential that I just got the thumb plugged and redone because of the span. I think I got that in 2001. I am not sure if I can use that on today's conditions but going to try it.


I have a timeless and I don't hae any nicks or scratches in it. I never got any real oil out of it either. I haven't been using it much because it goes a bit too long before it starts to hook. This ball should be played more left or slower.


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