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 Post subject: Feedback on my shot
 Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:10 am Post Number: #1 Post
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Hey all, I'd love some feedback on my shot. I'm trying to get a very modern style release (Mike Fagan has my favorite swing and release). I am concerned about my swing, I'm not sure if it's straight enough. I'm also concerned about the timing of my steps as well as the length of each step. I have a five step approach, yet I have to setup at the very edge of the approach and I still end up close to the foul line. I've also noticed that my first crossover step goes across my left foot rather than straight in front of it. Is this okay or should I straighten out that first crossover step?

Here is the back view:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ojGg9j ... rXYWS/view

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fpGd82 ... 7dUFZ/view


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 Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:12 am Post Number: #2 Post
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Hey all, I'd love some feedback on my shot. I'm trying to get a very modern style release (Mike Fagan has my favorite swing and release). I am concerned about my swing, I'm not sure if it's straight enough. I'm also concerned about the timing of my steps as well as the length of each step. I have a five step approach, yet I have to setup at the very edge of the approach and I still end up close to the foul line. I've also noticed that my first crossover step goes across my left foot rather than straight in front of it. Is this okay or should I straighten out that first crossover step?

Here is the back view:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ojGg9j ... rXYWS/view
From the back view, I like that the ball is inside your head at the foul line.
You have a few items of concern. from the sideview. I would focus on the crossover step and reducing it. As an exaggeration, I would say think stepping RIGHT on your second step


Side view:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fpGd82 ... 7dUFZ/view


Stance is ok from the side view. I would try and keep your left arm a little higher in front of you starting at the end of your pushaway, almost like you are pointing your left arm parallel to your ball path. My hope is that will keep your torso a little more quiet and keep your spine tilt forward a little more consistent. I would work on one thing at a time though. Focus on the crossover step first.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:43 pm Post Number: #3 Post
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Welcome to BowlingChat!

A strong release is only achieved from a strong balanced position, we first need to get you posting your shot, every time you fall off you will be losing power and accuracy.

Walter is correct about spine tilt, you want it to be quiet after you set it up on the third step, you also want to keep it near your center of gravity not too far forward or to the side as this will contribute to you falling off the shot. Ball should be kept under the head from address to release.

Fagan's game is quite unique, I like how loose and effortless it looks. To be loose you need to build a style with good fundamentals but also something that feels easy to you and goes with your personality and physiology. Looking at pro bowlers for reference is a good thing but don't try to copy each and every move as some characteristics may fit your game and other characteristics won't.

You can start doing the Kegel drills, especially the finish drill and the swing and slide. Like Walter stated focus on one thing at a time, it takes about 1,500 repetitions to make a new movement permanent so focus on quality of motion when you are practicing not on pin fall. Practice does not make perfect, practice makes permanent so it is also advisable to work with a good certified coach in your area. Good luck and keep us posted about your progress.

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 Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:07 pm Post Number: #4 Post
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I am concerned about my swing, I'm not sure if it's straight enough.


Your back view video isn't directly behind your bowling side shoulder going down your intended ball path. With that said it does look like the pushaway goes outwards not straight forwards.with the pushaway going right and the crossover going too far left you created a large space . remember the ball should stay under the head at all times.

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I've also noticed that my first crossover step goes across my left foot rather than straight in front of it. Is this okay or should I straighten out that first crossover step?


yes straighten it out.

http://s943.photobucket.com/user/spr3wr/media/Untitled4_zpsuenpjzet.png.html?sort=3&o=0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxLvpxO ... re=related

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I'm also concerned about the timing of my steps as well as the length of each step.

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I have a five step approach, yet I have to setup at the very edge of the approach and I still end up close to the foul line.

Both questions can be answered by shorting your 4th step. Notice in the next pic how the pros knees are together... this is when the ball should drop into the down swing. In your video the ball is starting to fall and your knees are far apart. Fixing your 4th step should help most of your problems.

http://s943.photobucket.com/user/spr3wr/media/Untitled_zpstu6ptefd.png.html?sort=3&o=3

This long 4th step makes your timing early which is why you have balance problems. Mark Baker discovered a timing spot for most bowlers.

http://s943.photobucket.com/user/spr3wr/media/Untitled2_zps9yulsvxm.png.html?sort=3&o=2

Your slide stops and the ball is already 4 or 5 feet down the lane. Fixing your 4th step will also help this.

http://s943.photobucket.com/user/spr3wr/media/Untitled3_zpsvwd5lpof.png.html?sort=3&o=1


Your release is fine.

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