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Applying the Dual Angle System & Sweet Spot - Reference

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I have posted my reference as a PDF on the wiki, check it out and let me know if anything needs to be corrected.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index. ... etSpot.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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Someone's been doing a lot of homework and note taking!! Impressive!! Yet again this is an excellent addition to the site by MattintheHat.
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Thanks, been a rough week and that made my day :)
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MattInTheHat wrote:Thanks, been a rough week and that made my day :)
Good work dude, thanks for taking the time to document it.
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That was a fantastic read, good job.
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I've updated the Wiki and PDF file with (hopefully!) more accurate information based on our conversations in other threads, as well as added 6 more sample bowlers.

Please let me know if anything doesn't look right.
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I notice you included the guy I just posted. Does that mean you agree with my assessment?
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I think most the layouts look about right, the only layouts that I thought might be a little off are the dry lane layouts where I was thinking a slightly higher drilling angle and lower VAL angle than you suggested...maybe? His specs are also close to one of the other bowlers who has already gotten approved layouts (which were in the ballpark of yours), so with that I decided to include it. Plus I just liked how you split things up by lane condition. ;)

If some one else (Mo) feels there should be adjustments made to the layouts I can always tweak the info at that time. I am trying to keep up with things like that as best I can.
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Killer job on detail with that document Matt.
Thank you goes out to everyone that helped to construct it.
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cgeorg wrote:I notice you included the guy I just posted. Does that mean you agree with my assessment?
I think you did a great job. your sweet-spot assessment was 105 +/- 20. Your dry equaled 125* and your oil equaled 85*. It looks to me that if that is consistent, you should be right on the money.
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Just realized that I was used as the first example bowler.
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