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 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:04 am Post Number: #1 Post
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Folks, I'm slowly coming back after a wrist injury. It will be sometime before my ball speed comes back to where it was before the injury.
I'm looking at weaker resin pearl balls that will give me some length.
I'm talking Brunswick Rhino, Tropical Storm, the new Motiv Thrill, etcetera.
I mean, will picking any of these work okay, because they all seem to be fairly close and similar?

Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.

Mark


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 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:13 am Post Number: #2 Post
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Folks, I'm slowly coming back after a wrist injury. It will be sometime before my ball speed comes back to where it was before the injury.
I'm looking at weaker resin pearl balls that will give me some length.
I'm talking Brunswick Rhino, Tropical Storm, the new Motiv Thrill, etcetera.
I mean, will picking any of these work okay, because they all seem to be fairly close and similar?

Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.

Mark

Rhino and Tropical are really similar. I like the Tropical a hair better (just me probably). Bill Hall speaks very highly of the Brunswick Twist. It doesn't hook as much as the Rhino. haven't seen one yet in action.
I really like the Hammer plastic with the widow core.


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 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:56 am Post Number: #3 Post
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 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 7:29 pm Post Number: #4 Post
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markkuhn wrote:
Folks, I'm slowly coming back after a wrist injury. It will be sometime before my ball speed comes back to where it was before the injury.
I'm looking at weaker resin pearl balls that will give me some length.
I'm talking Brunswick Rhino, Tropical Storm, the new Motiv Thrill, etcetera.
I mean, will picking any of these work okay, because they all seem to be fairly close and similar?

Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.

Mark


Mark, I hope your wrist is recovering satisfactorily.
While recovering have you worn a wrist device for protection?
What was your rehab protocol?

Just wondering -
Can you explain why your wrist injury has impacted your ball speed (not wrist action).
If you wear a wrist device and let your hand ride the ball, I would not expect your speed to be slow. The reduced wrist and arm tension could loosen your swing.

See Jim's comments on "tension" in
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14346

Additional comments on speed by Jim pointing out the importance of foot speed and a loose swing.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10970&p=85068&hilit=Speed#p85068

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 Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 8:46 pm Post Number: #5 Post
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I've owned 3 Tropical Storms (aka Tropical Breeze). But one of them cracked. A buddy of mine also had one that cracked. The coverstock seems 1/8" thinner compared to other balls. Other than that it's a great ball on dry lanes.


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 Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 1:36 am Post Number: #6 Post
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kajmk wrote:

Mark, I hope your wrist is recovering satisfactorily.
While recovering have you worn a wrist device for protection?
What was your rehab protocol?

Just wondering -
Can you explain why your wrist injury has impacted your ball speed (not wrist action).
If you wear a wrist device and let your hand ride the ball, I would not expect your speed to be slow. The reduced wrist and arm tension could loosen your swing.

See Jim's comments on "tension" in
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14346

Additional comments on speed by Jim pointing out the importance of foot speed and a loose swing.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10970&p=85068&hilit=Speed#p85068


I was under a doctor's care for what was thought to be a sprain in my wrist. Since there was healing after 10 weeks, I got the green light to return. But last week the pain returned again, so I have shut myself down, pending an MRI next week. Doctor believes I have a TFCC tear.
Surgery is a possibility, but won't know more until the MRI results are in. For normal day to day functions, my wrist feels fine. It is impossible to bowl, however.
I am working now with my local PSO on the idea of switching to my left hand since I would rather not have surgery, at age 60 especially, just to return to bowling.
I truly love the game, but after reading about and listening to people who have had the surgery, it is very painful and often resulted in a permanent loss of mobility in the wrist.


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 Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:46 am Post Number: #7 Post
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Sorry about your wrist issues.
I had to switch to left handed bowling for 1 1/2 years.
You may find breaking the game into components to be helpful.
You can practice at home using a prop in lieu of a ball.

Be patient and stick to it. You may find that you enjoy the process. Chances are, your swing will be looser.

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 Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 1:54 pm Post Number: #8 Post
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markkuhn wrote:

I was under a doctor's care for what was thought to be a sprain in my wrist. Since there was healing after 10 weeks, I got the green light to return. But last week the pain returned again, so I have shut myself down, pending an MRI next week. Doctor believes I have a TFCC tear.
Surgery is a possibility, but won't know more until the MRI results are in. For normal day to day functions, my wrist feels fine. It is impossible to bowl, however.
I am working now with my local PSO on the idea of switching to my left hand since I would rather not have surgery, at age 60 especially, just to return to bowling.
I truly love the game, but after reading about and listening to people who have had the surgery, it is very painful and often resulted in a permanent loss of mobility in the wrist.


We see a lot of injuries in people of all ages, particularly in the over 55 group. They often ask, what is the best route to avoid furthering the injury and just want to keep bowling. Unfortunately, there is no unilateral advice that would apply to every situation. However, the most important element remains within the person and what they feel the future holds for them.

Personally, the first thing I ask the person: "Are you planning to bowl on Tour?" Usually, that question renders a chuckle from the person answering it. The purpose of the question is pointed though, how serious of an athlete do you perceive yourself as being? Are you seriously competitive or just want to enjoy getting out on the lanes once in a while? Once that is out of the way, the process of getting the person into the proper equipment can begin.

If you are serious, consider surgery. There are a few competitive bowers in our area who still capable of competing at a high level after the surgery was performed. I should add, they were accomplished bowlers before they had the surgery. Yes, the surgery did limit the mobility of their wrist, but the end result was worth it to them. Plus, it there is pain, it is tolerable. One such bowler had over 50 (300's). Recently, after the surgery, he just shot another 300 along with an 800 series. We joke around saying, he had his wrist fused so he wouldn't have to think about the proper hand position anymore. It's all in fun, he's a great guy, obviously, very, very talented. Note: He now wears a very restrictive wrist apparatus.

For those with less than professionals aspirations, we suggest much weaker equipment. That usually includes reconsidering the weight and the fit. The goal is to be comfortable. If we look at it from that perspective, a person who is comfortable when bowling is more apt to perform at a higher level than one who is struggling to get the ball down the lane.

Be honest with yourself.

We have a person who, because of pain, went from #15 to #13. He had developed "horrible" habits through trying to throw a ball that was too heavy, too aggressive. He sought lessons to correct his approach. It took two years. His game had improved enough, he decided to go back to #15, we suggested mid to low end equipment. It worked! Last week, he shot the high 4 game total in a local tournament for the day!

That's living proof, anything is possible if the proper steps are taken to address your issues in a manner which suits you best.


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