My buddy is looking for a layout on a Radical Squatch for a medium-dry house shot on wood lanes. His specs are:
Speed: 15.5-16.5mph (monitor)
Revs: 425-450 (off hand)
Tilt: 10-13 degrees
Rotation: 20 degrees
Any help would be appreciated!
Low rotation benchmark layout help
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Low rotation benchmark layout help
My current Stats:
RH
PAP: 5" over and 1" up
Speed: 14.5-15.5 MPH at Monitor
Rev rate: approx. 250-300 rpm
Tilt: 13-15 degrees
RH
PAP: 5" over and 1" up
Speed: 14.5-15.5 MPH at Monitor
Rev rate: approx. 250-300 rpm
Tilt: 13-15 degrees
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- Rev Rate: 375
- Axis Tilt: 14
- Axis Rotation: 45
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Re: Low rotation benchmark layout help
Rotation is 20 degrees? How was that measured? Is the guy dead up the back of the ball?Shazaam wrote:My buddy is looking for a layout on a Radical Squatch for a medium-dry house shot on wood lanes. His specs are:
Speed: 15.5-16.5mph (monitor)
Revs: 425-450 (off hand)
Tilt: 10-13 degrees
Rotation: 20 degrees
Any help would be appreciated!
Do you have his PAP?
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Re: Low rotation benchmark layout help
Video analysis with tape on his PAP. Looking at his release position, I'm eyeballing his rotation closer to 30-35 degrees (sorry for the blurry pic, best I can do while at work). I don't know his PAP.MegaMav wrote:Rotation is 20 degrees? How was that measured? Is the guy dead up the back of the ball?
Do you have his PAP?
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My current Stats:
RH
PAP: 5" over and 1" up
Speed: 14.5-15.5 MPH at Monitor
Rev rate: approx. 250-300 rpm
Tilt: 13-15 degrees
RH
PAP: 5" over and 1" up
Speed: 14.5-15.5 MPH at Monitor
Rev rate: approx. 250-300 rpm
Tilt: 13-15 degrees
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- Positive Axis Point: 5.5 Over & 1 Up
- Speed: 16.0 MPH - Camera
- Rev Rate: 375
- Axis Tilt: 14
- Axis Rotation: 45
- Heavy Oil Ball: Radical - Informer
- Medium Oil Ball: Brunswick - Fearless
- Light Oil Ball: Radical - Bonus Pearl
- Preferred Company: Radical Bowling Technologies
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Re: Low rotation benchmark layout help
Observer bias. You must look at it down the shot line, not the center of the approach.Shazaam wrote:
Video analysis with tape on his PAP. Looking at his release position, I'm eyeballing his rotation closer to 30-35 degrees (sorry for the blurry pic, best I can do while at work). I don't know his PAP.
Im thinking its more like 60-70.
20, on that line, he would rarely strike.
How was the tilt measured?
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Re: Low rotation benchmark layout help
Tilt was measured with the same video, so take that measurement with the same grain of salt. For the record, this video of him was self shot. I asked for the video used for the measurements, but haven't gotten it yet. I'm going to meet up with my friend in a couple weeks for tournament practice. There, I'll do the full work up properly: PAP, Tilt, Rotation, speed off hand, and revs off hand.MegaMav wrote:Observer bias. You must look at it down the shot line, not the center of the approach.
Im thinking its more like 60-70.
20, on that line, he would rarely strike.
How was the tilt measured?
He's an eager bowler that wants to start learning the technical side of things. I've already shared the forum and wiki with him, so I hope he reads up.
My current Stats:
RH
PAP: 5" over and 1" up
Speed: 14.5-15.5 MPH at Monitor
Rev rate: approx. 250-300 rpm
Tilt: 13-15 degrees
RH
PAP: 5" over and 1" up
Speed: 14.5-15.5 MPH at Monitor
Rev rate: approx. 250-300 rpm
Tilt: 13-15 degrees
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- Joined: April 27th, 2007, 5:00 am
- THS Average: 225
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- Positive Axis Point: 5.5 Over & 1 Up
- Speed: 16.0 MPH - Camera
- Rev Rate: 375
- Axis Tilt: 14
- Axis Rotation: 45
- Heavy Oil Ball: Radical - Informer
- Medium Oil Ball: Brunswick - Fearless
- Light Oil Ball: Radical - Bonus Pearl
- Preferred Company: Radical Bowling Technologies
- Location: Malta, NY
Re: Low rotation benchmark layout help
Thank you. Once you get the specs for him, we'll be eager to help him get the best ball motion possible.Shazaam wrote:
Tilt was measured with the same video, so take that measurement with the same grain of salt. For the record, this video of him was self shot. I asked for the video used for the measurements, but haven't gotten it yet. I'm going to meet up with my friend in a couple weeks for tournament practice. There, I'll do the full work up properly: PAP, Tilt, Rotation, speed off hand, and revs off hand.
He's an eager bowler that wants to start learning the technical side of things. I've already shared the forum and wiki with him, so I hope he reads up.
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Re: Low rotation benchmark layout help
Measure the Axis tilt with an Armadillo.
If you measure an accurate PAP, the tilt will also be accurate.
If you measure an accurate PAP, the tilt will also be accurate.
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PAP: 5.5625 x .625 up
REVRATE: 360
SPEED: 17mph at release
AR: 55º
AT: 17º
Byron
RH
PAP: 5.5625 x .625 up
REVRATE: 360
SPEED: 17mph at release
AR: 55º
AT: 17º