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 Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:12 am Post Number: #1 Post
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Anybody watching these where the US lost 3 out of 4 finals and wondering what were the losses down to?


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 Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:34 pm Post Number: #2 Post
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Chris Sloan from Ireland came 3rd. Well done Chris.


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 Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:30 pm Post Number: #3 Post
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It's on Flobowling, the outfit that took over xtraframe. Problem with Flobowling is that every time you go to their website to watch an archived event they show a headline with who won and spoil it.


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 Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:22 pm Post Number: #4 Post
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JimH wrote:
Chris Sloan from Ireland came 3rd. Well done Chris.

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The World has caught up with the United States in the sport of tenpin bowling- the direct result of marketing bowling, in this country, as a recreational game while in other countries it is considered a challenging sport. I predicted this on Lenny Nicholson's Phantom Radio internet show well over 10 years ago. Sad, Sad song.

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 Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:00 pm Post Number: #6 Post
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The World has caught up with the United States in the sport of tenpin bowling- the direct result of marketing bowling, in this country, as a recreational game while in other countries it is considered a challenging sport. I predicted this on Lenny Nicholson's Phantom Radio internet show well over 10 years ago. Sad, Sad song.

I wouldn’t say sad, just like the World Cup in baseball it could be the wake up call we need. I’d say the team choice was interesting for USA, all power besides Anderson and Barnes for today’s standard. Think a little more seasoned team or mix might have had a more impressive outcome.

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It was disappointing to see the PBA stars losing in 3 out of 4 finals, especially in the manner they did. One typical example would be Barnes whiffing one shot to the right and then missing the resulting 1-2-4-8 spare badly to the left of the headpin. And while all this was happening, a headline on FloBowling says: "Podcast: Blanchard says mental game separates winners from losers."


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 Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:01 pm Post Number: #8 Post
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The World has caught up with the United States in the sport of tenpin bowling- the direct result of marketing bowling, in this country, as a recreational game while in other countries it is considered a challenging sport.

Most bowling centers in Ireland are promoted as recreational bowling centers. There are fewer than 50 bowling centers in the country with very few promoting the competitive aspect of the sport. While Chris Sloan finished 3rd - the team of 6 men from Ireland finished 23rd of the 47 teams entered


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Most bowling centers in Ireland are promoted as recreational bowling centers. There are fewer than 50 bowling centers in the country with very few promoting the competitive aspect of the sport. While Chris Sloan finished 3rd - the team of 6 men from Ireland finished 23rd of the 47 teams entered


I believe this post indicates my hypothesis is correct. In the given social-cultural context, the greater emphasis placed on the sport will produce better Players. The social-cultural context which places emphasis on the recreational aspect of the game will not. The American culture has been running from the sport and to the recreational aspect of the business, for over 46 years, resulting in the American declined relative to the rest of the world.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:18 pm Post Number: #10 Post
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You can't discount availability of quality coaching or the how easy it is to get quality information on the internet . In the past, whoever had the best coaching usually won. Now there are great coaches in several countries with coaching programs some would say are better than the US. There is also quality information online where one could probably teach themselves the basics better than ever. This may lead to more interest and seeking out better coaching.

I think it is a little unfair to all participants by assuming the US should win. The US bowlers are great and we do have a larger pool of players to choose from, but other countries put in hard work and are seeing their hard work rewarded.


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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:47 pm Post Number: #11 Post
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Countries like Malaysia and Singapore even employ their bowlers full time, so we don’t even do that. So that will close the gap significantly if others follow.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:02 pm Post Number: #12 Post
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spmcgivern wrote:

I think it is a little unfair to all participants by assuming the US should win. The US bowlers are great and we do have a larger pool of players to choose from, but other countries put in hard work and are seeing their hard work rewarded.


Excellent point and sentiments. Incentives may also be a factor.
Years ago, Don Johnson commented that in high school, the emphasis and attention was on basketball and football. Bowling was something that you did not have to big and strong to do and at that point, he decided to be a pro bowler.

Another thing to consider is that the U.S. also has many more sporting options than other countries.

Things change.

Regardless of who or where, it's good to see effort, desire, and ability rewarded.

Do I lament the state and stature of bowling in the U.S.?
Most definitely yes. We can do what we can to encourage, educate people to be the best they can at whatever they choose to pursue.

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