Mathematic formula to figure out where to stand

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Re: Mathematic formula to figure out where to stand

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gunso wrote:
so your laydown point is 27. at the arrows are crossing 20. that is at an angle of 7 boards over 15 fet. you still have 29 feet to cover and only 7 boards left to cover before the pattern exit. How is it destructive pointing out that the math doesn't work for different launch angles at various distsnces?

and of course the math will work if we are throwing it dead straight up the boards but that isn't how bowling is played today. It just doesn't work for different trajectory lines in this simple formula.a
Just my initial thought when reading this...………..I hope the ball isn't going dead straight in a skid for 44' then expected to get thru the 2 transitions and hit w/ any authority in the remaining 16'. Is that what we're saying here? I'm thinking the ball is reading something in the mid-lane and starting to go more parallel w/ the lane instead of continuing on the initial launch angle at the line/laydown point.
I dunno maybe I'm nuts...………..well...……...yeah a little:)
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Yep, ball reaction will also play a factor, a skid flip vs an arcing hook... Jim took it to the next level... I guess I should asume most here split boards with deadly precision but I stand by my formula for mere mortals playing house shots. My initial post was meant for those who are at a lesser level and are used to sliding 25 and releasing over 10 boards from their ankle. In the future I will be more reserved when sharing.
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Im hoping Jim has time to follow up on his post.
I'd love to read his thoughts.
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MegaMav wrote:Im hoping Jim has time to follow up on his post.
I'd love to read his thoughts.
I am extremely interested in the technique employed when playing extreme inside lines.
For example.

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Gone are the simple days where you did the math and merely extended the line back to the stance and walked the line to the target as illustrated in Bill Taylor's "Target lines" booklet. Of course, that harkens back to squaring up to the line. The ball return precludes that.


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Megamav & KAJMK

Lane play from an extreme inside line, extreme outside line and everywhere in between is all governed by these three words: Line of Play.

Elite athletes are capable of launching the ball on that line or within a board and a half either side of that line consistently.

The Line of Play consists of a Focal Point and a Visual Target.

I am pretty busy the next two weeks, but there is plenty of information available out there on this subject to digest.

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JMerrell wrote:Megamav & KAJMK

Lane play from an extreme inside line, extreme outside line and everywhere in between is all governed by these three words: Line of Play.

Elite athletes are capable of launching the ball on that line or within a board and a half either side of that line consistently.

The Line of Play consists of a Focal Point and a Visual Target.

I am pretty busy the next two weeks, but there is plenty of information available out there on this subject to digest.

More detail later.

Like you said Jim ELITE athletes, hence the innate ability to swing a heavy object in a consistent manner and deliver it at the proper angle. Folks that do not recognize that bowling in a challenging environment is most definitely a sport, never tried it.
Be kind of neat to set up some cones on a lane on an extreme line.
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JMerrell wrote: September 1st, 2018, 2:47 pm
After the holiday, I'll post in the Coaching Forum how my athlete's and I simplify determining the Line of Play based on Pattern Length.
Did you ever write that post of how you simplified determining the line of play based on pattern length? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

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