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 Post subject: Mo Pinel Discusses Axis Tilt
 Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:58 pm Post Number: #1 Post
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Mo Pinel Discusses Axis Tilt

Mo Pinel talks about AXIS TILT and the effect it has on ball reaction and why YOU should consider it when selecting your next layout.


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 Post subject: Re: Mo Pinel Discusses Axis Tilt
 Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:56 pm Post Number: #2 Post
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I asked for some clarification of this on facebook, and this is the answer I got:

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The only thing I can think of is, this is in preparation of having a lineup dominated by Asymmetrics.


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 Post subject: Re: Mo Pinel Discusses Axis Tilt
 Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:47 pm Post Number: #3 Post
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He really knows how to answer the question without answering why all of a sudden it is different from his earlier teachings. Both in regards to pin to pap lengths for symmetricals and why all of a sudden he recommends the same pin to pap distances.

Having the same pin to pap distance made much more sense to me though after reading the after drilling numbers. For example a pin up yeti uncaged ended up with a 0.18 int diff. I couldn't for the life of me understand why that ball should act different pin to pap wise then an 0.13 diff ball with a pin down drilling. The after drilling int diff was probably more on the yeti core.


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 Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:21 pm Post Number: #4 Post
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Drill a symmetric like a Cyclops 70 x 3 x 50 and drill a stronger asymmetric like a More Cash ?? x 3 x 50 and tell me they shape the same.
They do not.

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 Post subject: Re: Mo Pinel Discusses Axis Tilt
 Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:41 pm Post Number: #5 Post
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MegaMav wrote:
Drill a symmetric like a Cyclops 70 x 3 x 50 and drill a stronger asymmetric like a More Cash ?? x 3 x 50 and tell me they shape the same.
They do not.


don't matter how you drill them, they'll never shape the same and why would you want them to shape the same?


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 Post subject: Re: Mo Pinel Discusses Axis Tilt
 Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:02 am Post Number: #6 Post
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Interesting.

Would be curious to know what he would recommend for a two hander with slow speed.

or what would give the bigger tilt to gain maximum length?

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 Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:06 pm Post Number: #7 Post
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ball dynamics and layouts are correlated with PAP coordinates and bowler release metrics.
Static weight effects have been tested relative to the center of grip.
What's wrong with this picture?

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 Post subject: Re: Mo Pinel Discusses Axis Tilt
 Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:03 pm Post Number: #8 Post
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snick wrote:
ball dynamics and layouts are correlated with PAP coordinates and bowler release metrics.
Static weight effects have been tested relative to the center of grip.
What's wrong with this picture?

Exactly.

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