...for those who like to change balls to angular pearl during transition.
I'm close to being done with my polished Brunswick Kingpin for the last game. To be fair though, it's polished with Bean's Secret Sauce which is a bit more snappier than Valentino's Snake Oil.
One more session with some things I haven't tried like: weaker hand position, moving up a foot to increase laydown distance.
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Re: A polished solid can never be a pearl...Spinner experime
The problem with Secret Sauce is that it's the most intensely abrasive bowling ball polish ever made, of which I am aware. It is so strong, it's the only one that can truly shine up old, true urethane balls. That said, when used to polish resin, the result becomes an all or nothing proposition. Unless you start with an extremely dull base grit level, like 320 or 500 grit, on top of any finer grit level, the result will always be a marble. There are many levels of polish between a dull ball and a Secret Sauce polished ball.
Heck, that doesn't even begin to talk about finer levels of matte or dull finish: 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000 or even 5000 grit dull.
On the other side of the coin, the finer levels of granularity of grit are of greater value to those who are matched or rev dominant, than to those who are speed dominant. It still matters to the speed dominant, but they need to pay attention to larger changes in the grit level of the finished ball. Example: for a strongly speed dominant bowler, his significant finish levels may be 500 grit, 2000 grit, and polished. To go down to slightly sped dominant to matched speed & revs, to strongly rev dominant, significant grit levels or finishes may be 2000 grit, 4000 grit, 500 grit + polish, 500/1000 grit + polish, 500/1000/2000 grit + polish, 4000 grit + polish, etc.
Heck, that doesn't even begin to talk about finer levels of matte or dull finish: 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000 or even 5000 grit dull.
On the other side of the coin, the finer levels of granularity of grit are of greater value to those who are matched or rev dominant, than to those who are speed dominant. It still matters to the speed dominant, but they need to pay attention to larger changes in the grit level of the finished ball. Example: for a strongly speed dominant bowler, his significant finish levels may be 500 grit, 2000 grit, and polished. To go down to slightly sped dominant to matched speed & revs, to strongly rev dominant, significant grit levels or finishes may be 2000 grit, 4000 grit, 500 grit + polish, 500/1000 grit + polish, 500/1000/2000 grit + polish, 4000 grit + polish, etc.
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Speed: 13.5 -14.5 at pin deck
Rev Rate: 275 - 350
Axis rotation: 45*
Axis tilt: 17*
PAP: 5" x 0"
Speed: 13.5 -14.5 at pin deck
Rev Rate: 275 - 350
Axis rotation: 45*
Axis tilt: 17*
PAP: 5" x 0"
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Re: A polished solid can never be a pearl...Spinner experime
Awesome information!
Your thoughts on Valentino's Snake Oil?
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Re: A polished solid can never be a pearl...Spinner experime
Hi Charlest. See if I understand correctly.charlest wrote:The problem with Secret Sauce is that it's the most intensely abrasive bowling ball polish ever made, of which I am aware. It is so strong, it's the only one that can truly shine up old, true urethane balls. That said, when used to polish resin, the result becomes an all or nothing proposition. Unless you start with an extremely dull base grit level, like 320 or 500 grit, on top of any finer grit level, the result will always be a marble. There are many levels of polish between a dull ball and a Secret Sauce polished ball.
Heck, that doesn't even begin to talk about finer levels of matte or dull finish: 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000 or even 5000 grit dull.
On the other side of the coin, the finer levels of granularity of grit are of greater value to those who are matched or rev dominant, than to those who are speed dominant. It still matters to the speed dominant, but they need to pay attention to larger changes in the grit level of the finished ball. Example: for a strongly speed dominant bowler, his significant finish levels may be 500 grit, 2000 grit, and polished. To go down to slightly sped dominant to matched speed & revs, to strongly rev dominant, significant grit levels or finishes may be 2000 grit, 4000 grit, 500 grit + polish, 500/1000 grit + polish, 500/1000/2000 grit + polish, 4000 grit + polish, etc.
Only use Secret Sauce on resin balls with low base grit such as 320 or 500, and skip other grits. Otherwise, the balls will skid too longer.
Finer levels of granularity of grit means going through each level of grit when sanding balls e.g. 500, 1000, 2000, then 4000 (no Secret Sauce). And this is more applicable for matched or rev dominant players.
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PAP: 5 1/8 up 3/4
Speed: 15.5 mph (Kegel Specto)
Rev: 350 RPM
Axis tilt: 18-20*
Axis rotation: 60*
Right handed
PAP: 5 1/8 up 3/4
Speed: 15.5 mph (Kegel Specto)
Rev: 350 RPM
Axis tilt: 18-20*
Axis rotation: 60*
Re: A polished solid can never be a pearl...Spinner experime
is there any way to get a hold off the secret sauce anymore?
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Re: A polished solid can never be a pearl...Spinner experime
Lane1 has it.
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Re: A polished solid can never be a pearl...Spinner experime
charlest wrote:The problem with Secret Sauce is that it's the most intensely abrasive bowling ball polish ever made, of which I am aware. It is so strong, it's the only one that can truly shine up old, true urethane balls. That said, when used to polish resin, the result becomes an all or nothing proposition. Unless you start with an extremely dull base grit level, like 320 or 500 grit, on top of any finer grit level, the result will always be a marble. There are many levels of polish between a dull ball and a Secret Sauce polished ball.
Heck, that doesn't even begin to talk about finer levels of matte or dull finish: 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000 or even 5000 grit dull.
On the other side of the coin, the finer levels of granularity of grit are of greater value to those who are matched or rev dominant, than to those who are speed dominant. It still matters to the speed dominant, but they need to pay attention to larger changes in the grit level of the finished ball. Example: for a strongly speed dominant bowler, his significant finish levels may be 500 grit, 2000 grit, and polished. To go down to slightly sped dominant to matched speed & revs, to strongly rev dominant, significant grit levels or finishes may be 2000 grit, 4000 grit, 500 grit + polish, 500/1000 grit + polish, 500/1000/2000 grit + polish, 4000 grit + polish, etc.
What surfaces matched with which bowler? You say going down.....
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Re: A polished solid can never be a pearl...Spinner experime
lane1 just called it quits as I understand itbowlaj wrote:Lane1 has it.
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Re: A polished solid can never be a pearl...Spinner experime
tried maroon scotchbrite topped with Beans on Brunswick Kingpin...did not feed the friction far enough to the left
OPERATOR ERROR!!!
OPERATOR ERROR!!!
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