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 Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:19 am Post Number: #1 Post
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My timing is good so says my coach, but i do not get good leverage or 'time' on the ball at release.
I know sometimes when i do, its when my sliding foot has stopped, i think Mr Merrell mentioned this recently in his posts to Krava? Its my intention to work with my coach to achieve this constantly, but what is it i need to change /adjust to get time in the leverage/time on he hand? Is it a slight push away change, changing my 1st two steps? (i am thinking 2 walk pace steps). I know i am close, just the coach to get me corrected.

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Could you post a video from the side please, shot from the foul line.

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 Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:30 pm Post Number: #3 Post
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Bp, here are some guidelines for video capture.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index. ... e_Coaching


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 Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:17 am Post Number: #4 Post
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Thanks for the comments, i have finished bowling until mid January, 2 weeks before league stars up again, so i dont want to do a vid until then, just having a good break, I was hoping for some useful comments but i know thats not really the way to go as a video helps any comments, so i will post a vid mid January. cheers

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 Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:18 pm Post Number: #5 Post
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Could be any or a combo of many factors, that’s why a side video following our guidelines is important. Could be an early push away, muscle in some part of the swing, length of steps, where you start your approach, pulling down from the top of the backswing not letting the ball fall by gravity... video is needed for a diagnosis.

A break from league is an excellent time to work on your physical game without having to worry about score.


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 Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:57 pm Post Number: #6 Post
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Although timing is best gauged via the side view, adding a view from the rear is in my opinion a good idea, couldn't really hurt.
There are so many coaches "tricks". One coach wrote about a "hum" drill as an audio aid to detect tension and exertion.

Juha Maha of ETBF points out that bowling is at times a sport of exceptions. Think of a Bell Curve, where most elite have traits that cluster, but some excel outside the cluster.

Just a general thought for pondering: this is an excerpt of another topic.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10955&hilit=Hall

Key point, file this away for the future, ball and foot moving at the same time is not an assurance of anything.
Its a barometer. More later.
For a clue, pull up these bowlers and observe how and when they place the ball.
Again, this may be TMI, just be aware.
The bowlers - Tommy Jones, Chris Barnes, Lynda Norry Barnes (yes they are married), Barry Asher.
They are all in the hall of fame or will be there. They all have different synchronization.
Point is, do not be obsessed with precise synchronization, you are not a machine.
Dwelling on precision will lead to mental and physical tension and fatigue.


Aside from different sync points, different bowler's exhibit different "styles" and timing.
Compare Chris Barnes with Tommy Jones with Asbaty with Pluhosky for example.

For a number of reasons, Bill Hall remains perhaps my favorite mentor.

A top coach can help you be the best version of You.

Be safe, be well, be happy ...

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 Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:24 pm Post Number: #7 Post
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https://youtu.be/0xKPyWxRVc0

1:56:09

Coach Ruben Ghiragossian gives one of the best talks about timing I have ever listened to. This specific talk is gold.


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TonyPR wrote:
https://youtu.be/0xKPyWxRVc0

1:56:09

Coach Ruben Ghiragossian gives one of the best talks about timing I have ever listened to. This specific talk is gold.


Thanks for posting this Tony. An education on a craft that is underrated for sure.
Wisdom from Ruben.

For more content including indices of speakers and topics see
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13975&hilit=World

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