2y2 wrote:Hello LittleTiger, now I see everything clear!
This is a description of some things I see that are going on, I´m not giving any solution whatsoever, I really recommend you to upload recent videos, side and back views for Jimm Merrill to analyze and give you his unparalleled advise.
Yea well I noticed that I should take side view videos more often. I found only couple of them but not any very recent.
Other part of story is that I choose old video for purpose because I remember which kind of things we have practiced after that with my coaches so can compare them to your recommendations
2y2 wrote:Third step: Even though your timing at the 3rd step is almost right your torso is very vertical and you appear to be sitting back all the time. Look at Marshall Kent, how he has forward tilt, you both look similar at that point but his torso is starting to lean forward, yours don´t.
This point I have probably got fixed with shorten first two steps and having forward tilt already on start position.
2y2 wrote:Top of the swing: You get very early to the top of the swing, here too, you can see how vertical your torso is and how you appear to be sitting back. You haven´t even begun your pivot step and this is the moment when your ball is static and will start to fall, too early. Marshal´s up swing hasn´t finished here and his right foot is already on the floor.
On newer video timing looks be better on this point but keeping forward tilt have been always hard for me. Anyway, that is line with thing what my coach have been telling me that I should focus to keep chest "looking" to floor instead of side. Needs more practice.
2y2 wrote:Pivot step: this is the moment when your ball should be starting to fall but in your case, it is already shoulder high, you can see how early your timing is and how in Marshal´s case the ball is starting the downswing. Notice Marshal´s forward tilt, compare it to yours, he´s attacking you´re sitting.
Timing on this point too looks to be better on newer videos but do you have good ideas how to get from sitting to attacking on this point?
I see difference on pictures but how to practice that other than just having more forward tilt?
2y2 wrote:Mark Baker´s timing spot: According to Mark Baker, almost all hall of famers have the same position at this point, Marshall does but you are earlier as you get to the foul line. I´ve overlaid Marshall green lines so you can compare angles better. When your left heel touches the ground, your right arm should be horizontal (Blue line), in your case, well, look at the pink line. Once again compare Marshall´s forward tilt to yours, he´s attacking you´re sitting back.
This timing spot was new for me. Thanks for information. Need to learn more about it.
2y2 wrote:Release: At this moment you are leaning backwards, you push your hips to the front and pull your back backwards, dissipating all energy from your torso to the ball, you´ve lost the small torso forward tilt you had, compare Marshall´s position, the spine angle is at its greatest, look where his head is compared to his left foot and knee, everything is going forward, he´s attacking, you´re not, look how far away is your face from the vertical yellow line.
Luckily I'm not pull back backwards anymore but learning to not push hips to the front needs more practice. My coach has told me that I should think about push hips backwards/to left on this point which looks helping but it is not easy.
2y2 wrote:I think that definitely one reason for your low speed starts with your really small forward tilt.
Yes, I agree that is one of the reasons. On this thread I probably was mostly interested about other factors but it is interesting to see how important you see this.
2y2 wrote:I´m sorry to say this, but I don´t think your waist level has anything to do with your energy transfer.
You are allowed to say that
I need discuss more with my coach that what he is looking for with that.
Anyway, big thanks for very good video analyze.
imagonman wrote:Exactly what I see as well.
To give a 'golf' analogy this is the same as the dreaded reverse pivot. A death knell to power, speed & control. Caused by - improper spine angle/tilt. This is a very weak position from which to impart any leverage at all. You are merely 'waving' at it.
There looks to be lot of articles on about "reverse pivot". Thanks for term.
imagonman wrote:So after 40 posts of scientific theory on physics, vector angles, tangent, gravity, momentum etc.,etc. it's all BS!
You have a coach & he doesn't SEE this! Find a new one & fast!
No all them was not BS. This have been very educational discussion (at least for me). I have not said that dropping waist level/body or practice bowling with sneakers would be
only things what my coach have been telling me. These was things what I did not fully understood that why I wanted discuss with you about them.
I'm that kind of person that I need to understand
why to be able to learn anything.
I have been practicing with my current coach only just couple of times now and getting more forward tilt and learning to not push hips to the front on point of release are things we have been focusing so he definetily have seen this even when situtation is even not so bad anymore that it has on that
two years old video.