opposite sore shoulder
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opposite sore shoulder
while trying to have my non bowling arm forward during the 4 steps i seem to have made it sore, what have i done for this to happen? have i moved it back too fast or...???
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Re: opposite sore shoulder
When you have your arm extended, is the thumb on that hand pointing up or down?ballspoint wrote:while trying to have my non bowling arm forward during the 4 steps i seem to have made it sore, what have i done for this to happen? have i moved it back too fast or...???
The act of pulling your arm back will stretch muscles differently based on the position of the hand.
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Re: opposite sore shoulder
Probably thumb up or level, should be thumb down? you think this may be the issue?MWhite wrote:
When you have your arm extended, is the thumb on that hand pointing up or down?
The act of pulling your arm back will stretch muscles differently based on the position of the hand.
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Re: opposite sore shoulder
ballspoint wrote:
Probably thumb up or level, should be thumb down? you think this may be the issue?
It may be an issue.
The problem with taking a description of what you're doing, and giving you the definitive cause, is it would require that you gave a complete, and finely detailed description of what you're doing.
By the time you get to were you can provide such a detailed description, you can most likely diagnose the problem on your own.
That is why it's usually best to provide video.
Re: opposite sore shoulder
MWhite wrote:
It may be an issue.
The problem with taking a description of what you're doing, and giving you the definitive cause, is it would require that you gave a complete, and finely detailed description of what you're doing.
By the time you get to were you can provide such a detailed description, you can most likely diagnose the problem on your own.
That is why it's usually best to provide video.
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Re: opposite sore shoulder
Stand up and place your arm directly in front of you as you would during your bowling approach. Keep your balance hand thumb up or level. Now pretend to rotate your shoulders as if your rolling the ball keeping the thumb in the same position . Notice that the balance arm will move back so far then stop. If you force the arm back any farther it will pull the muscles and make that joint start to hurt. Now do the same with the thumb down notice how easier it is to move the hand behind the back (pain free) . The shoulder isn't designed to rotate with the thumb up as much as with the thumb down.
http://www.denverbowling.com/tips/tip-2 ... nceArm.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.denverbowling.com/tips/tip-2 ... nceArm.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: opposite sore shoulder
spr3wr wrote:Stand up and place your arm directly in front of you as you would during your bowling approach. Keep your balance hand thumb up or level. Now pretend to rotate your shoulders as if your rolling the ball keeping the thumb in the same position . Notice that the balance arm will move back so far then stop. If you force the arm back any farther it will pull the muscles and make that joint start to hurt. Now do the same with the thumb down notice how easier it is to move the hand behind the back (pain free) . The shoulder isn't designed to rotate with the thumb up as much as with the thumb down.
http://www.denverbowling.com/tips/tip-2 ... nceArm.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: opposite sore shoulder
I just did what was advised and could feel the difference, i also tried it with my balance arm at my side then turned thumb down and could feel the muscles/ligaments/bone turn to take away the discomfort i was feeling. Thank you for your advice, was very helpful...green button clicked of course.spr3wr wrote:Stand up and place your arm directly in front of you as you would during your bowling approach. Keep your balance hand thumb up or level. Now pretend to rotate your shoulders as if your rolling the ball keeping the thumb in the same position . Notice that the balance arm will move back so far then stop. If you force the arm back any farther it will pull the muscles and make that joint start to hurt. Now do the same with the thumb down notice how easier it is to move the hand behind the back (pain free) . The shoulder isn't designed to rotate with the thumb up as much as with the thumb down.
http://www.denverbowling.com/tips/tip-2 ... nceArm.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: opposite sore shoulder
At coaching last night i mentioned the above suggestion, and i now have a drill to practise thumb down.
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