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 Post subject: Space between legs during slide
 Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:23 pm Post Number: #1 Post
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How do you get the large gap between your slide leg and trail leg? When you look at Belmonte, and otger 2 handers or power players in general from the side the gap between each leg is huge.

How do you get this? What physical queues(drop hip, push off 4th step, etc) are necessary?


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 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:36 pm Post Number: #2 Post
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You mean length of slide step?

I think that it just result of enough speed together with sliding sole.
Of course good timing help they get to right position.


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 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:59 pm Post Number: #3 Post
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ineedhelp wrote:
How do you get the large gap between your slide leg and trail leg?
How do you get this? What physical queues(drop hip, push off 4th step, etc) are necessary?


Basically it's product of your push off and slide.

You might want to take a look at the "Analysis and Keys of the 2-Handed Style of Bowling by Jim Merrell" video:

This video is an analysis of the two-handed style of bowling, highlighting key educational elements. Focus is on the set-up position at address, distance of ball placement, the importance of maintaining upper body posture until the beginning of the slide, incorporating a long slide and maintaining a balanced finish position.


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 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:57 pm Post Number: #4 Post
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to correct wonky links


One way is to have a very short step before the power or pivot step.
Shockley shows it in one of his videos.
Look at advanced footwork video in the Richard Shockley set

http://www.youtube.com/user/RSvirtualbowling

Look at Lesson 3 in the Kegel set
Kegel showed this in the teen master instructional set. You can also see it in Marshall Holman on the supervision tapes on the wiki (a Jowdy tip)

Kegel Set
(edited to change link to actual YOUTUBE set of 10)

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... v31xttCKuQ


The thread below also has more on footwork including a 6 lesson set from Jowdy

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10736&hilit=Jowdy


Note the training methods and progression in the Kegel set. This is a tried and true system. Slow speed to rehearse, no ball, faster speed, no ball, prop in lieu of ball.
Groove the muscle memory "so to speak"
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 Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:39 pm Post Number: #5 Post
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Thank you everyone for your replies.

I forgot to mention in the original post that I have a hard time driving off my trail leg into the slide. When I was getting coached someone said "there's no tension here". I'm having a hard time applying leg drive and wondered if there were exercises or physical queues to get the same movement into the slide Belmonte has in the pic above


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 Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:51 pm Post Number: #6 Post
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Do one step drills focusing on driving off your power step. I will post a link to the kegel video, being a two hander, do the same with your legs but obviously bring the ball back (backswing) with two hands and release as you normally do:

https://youtu.be/RrRIb08WThM

Spine tilt should correspond to your two handed style and start the drill where your power step would normally end up in a full approach. Good luck!

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