Hello i am having trouble with lofting the ball out to far instead of getting it down close to the line. I like the reaction and tracking that i am getting out of the ball but on longer patterns i dont need the extra push downlane. If anybody has any tips or drills that i might be able to do to help. Please let me know. Your Help is very much appreciated.
P.S- I am lofting it a long ways.
Getting The Ball Down!!!
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Re: Getting The Ball Down!!!
Welcome to the site.
The Certified Coaching Forum requires video for accurate analysis, otherwise we're just guessing what's going on in your physical game.
I moved your post to the Coaching Discussion Forum for input from other members.
Typically, when I see people lofting the ball out onto the lane the ball is released well past the bottom of the swing arc. (See 'A' versus 'B' attached below)
This can be the result of a myriad of things......bad fit, standing up through the release, too much grip pressure, etc.
Fixing it usually starts with a good fit, proper use of tape to maintain constant grip pressure from day to day, etc.
If you feel this analysis has value........click the green button.
The Certified Coaching Forum requires video for accurate analysis, otherwise we're just guessing what's going on in your physical game.
I moved your post to the Coaching Discussion Forum for input from other members.
Typically, when I see people lofting the ball out onto the lane the ball is released well past the bottom of the swing arc. (See 'A' versus 'B' attached below)
This can be the result of a myriad of things......bad fit, standing up through the release, too much grip pressure, etc.
Fixing it usually starts with a good fit, proper use of tape to maintain constant grip pressure from day to day, etc.
If you feel this analysis has value........click the green button.
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Re: Getting The Ball Down!!!
hi,
loft is not your enemy, it is speed on the longer patterns!!
if you put your ball down earlier on the longer patterns it will pick up more oil in the heads....and slide further unless they have burned up and its later in the day/squad. However in that case just play the "ball track" area.
Look at the Finnish bowler Mika K, his loft is half way to the arrows...and misses lots of the head oil.
regards
Rob
loft is not your enemy, it is speed on the longer patterns!!
if you put your ball down earlier on the longer patterns it will pick up more oil in the heads....and slide further unless they have burned up and its later in the day/squad. However in that case just play the "ball track" area.
Look at the Finnish bowler Mika K, his loft is half way to the arrows...and misses lots of the head oil.
regards
Rob
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Re: Getting The Ball Down!!!
Have your ball fit checked by a competent PSO. You need to eliminate the possibility that you are squeezing the ball as it enters the release zone and "hitting up on the ball" at release.
The delivery should be a downward and outward motion along your target line; never upward.
The delivery should be a downward and outward motion along your target line; never upward.
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Re: Getting The Ball Down!!!
A few tidbits. Jim Merrell has probably forgotten more than I think I know.
If you submit a video using the wiki tip on video for analysis, I'll bet the ranch he nails it.
As Jim said, there are a bunch of reasons for the problem you wrote of.
If you GUESS wrong, you'll be chasing your tail.
Many times the athletes perception of what and when he is doing something is a distortion of reality.
On loft, there is a correct and an incorrect way to use that tool, but when you are getting a loft like affect unintentionally then something or things in the chain of events is wrong for you.
This is a general comment:
Next point, if Jim received a green plus for every time her helped a poster or reader, he'd be in the thousands.
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On the forum we have our Gehrig and Ruth, Jim is one of them, Mo is the other.
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If you simply weigh his points versus posts and are familiar with the quality he adds, it is a fait accompli he is vastly underated.
There are a number of others whos ratings surprise me by how low they are.
Remember, the green plus is for value. This can be helping you or helping others.
Please excuse me, evidently I've overdosed on cranky pills today.
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Cheers.
If you submit a video using the wiki tip on video for analysis, I'll bet the ranch he nails it.
As Jim said, there are a bunch of reasons for the problem you wrote of.
If you GUESS wrong, you'll be chasing your tail.
Many times the athletes perception of what and when he is doing something is a distortion of reality.
On loft, there is a correct and an incorrect way to use that tool, but when you are getting a loft like affect unintentionally then something or things in the chain of events is wrong for you.
This is a general comment:
Next point, if Jim received a green plus for every time her helped a poster or reader, he'd be in the thousands.
The man ALWAYS adds value.i
On the forum we have our Gehrig and Ruth, Jim is one of them, Mo is the other.
My parents taught me to say please and thank you.
Don't forget to thank folks if they help.
If you simply weigh his points versus posts and are familiar with the quality he adds, it is a fait accompli he is vastly underated.
There are a number of others whos ratings surprise me by how low they are.
Remember, the green plus is for value. This can be helping you or helping others.
Please excuse me, evidently I've overdosed on cranky pills today.
Having ranted, I bid you a clean set and some honor scores.
Cheers.
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Re: Getting The Ball Down!!!
snick wrote:Have your ball fit checked by a competent PSO. You need to eliminate the possibility that you are squeezing the ball as it enters the release zone and "hitting up on the ball" at release.
The delivery should be a downward and outward motion along your target line; never upward.
Thanks.
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Right handed
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Re: Getting The Ball Down!!!
Place a towel about 2 feet past the foul line (ask the bowling center if its OK). The drill is to have the ball land on the towel. This means you have to relax/let go of the ball earlier for this to happens. You have to FEEL what your doing at the release point (grabbing/squeezing) then make changes. Don't slow down the swing when doing this.MotivatedStormBowler wrote:Hello i am having trouble with lofting the ball out to far instead of getting it down close to the line. I like the reaction and tracking that i am getting out of the ball but on longer patterns i dont need the extra push downlane. If anybody has any tips or drills that i might be able to do to help. Please let me know. Your Help is very much appreciated.
P.S- I am lofting it a long ways.
If you want the ball to land closer to the foul line then move the towel closer.
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