How should I drill these?
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How should I drill these?
Okay, I have a Reign of Fire and a Hy-Road that I am using to start building an arsenal and was wondering if you had any suggestions on how to drill them up?
I got my stats from Kegel Training Center
Ball Speed: 18.2-18.5 mph
Rev Rate: 445 (outside), 485 (inside)
PAP: 4 7/8 over 1/2 up
I would like the Hy-Road to be my benchmark ball once I take the polish off of it, and I would like the Reign of Fire to be my heavy oil ball. I only bowl on sport shots with decent volume.
Thanks ahead of time.
Here is a video of me bowling on Chameleon with a RICO Spit Fire and almost RICO Gravity Shift (the pin was an inch up from grip center).
I got my stats from Kegel Training Center
Ball Speed: 18.2-18.5 mph
Rev Rate: 445 (outside), 485 (inside)
PAP: 4 7/8 over 1/2 up
I would like the Hy-Road to be my benchmark ball once I take the polish off of it, and I would like the Reign of Fire to be my heavy oil ball. I only bowl on sport shots with decent volume.
Thanks ahead of time.
Here is a video of me bowling on Chameleon with a RICO Spit Fire and almost RICO Gravity Shift (the pin was an inch up from grip center).
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Re: How should I drill these?
No video, and any idea of your axis Tilt/Rotation?
Re: How should I drill these?
Sorry, I put one with the original post, but for some reason it's not there now.Adrenaline wrote:No video, and any idea of your axis Tilt/Rotation?
Here's the video:
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Re: How should I drill these?
Need initial axis rotation and axis tilt to recommend effectively and I don't see a video.Motogp69 wrote:Okay, I have a Reign of Fire and a Hy-Road that I am using to start building an arsenal and was wondering if you had any suggestions on how to drill them up?
I got my stats from Kegel Training Center
Ball Speed: 18.2-18.5 mph
Rev Rate: 445 (outside), 485 (inside)
PAP: 4 7/8 over 1/2 up
I would like the Hy-Road to be my benchmark ball once I take the polish off of it, and I would like the Reign of Fire to be my heavy oil ball. I only bowl on sport shots with decent volume.
Thanks ahead of time.
Here is a video of me bowling on Chameleon with a RICO Spit Fire and almost RICO Gravity Shift (the pin was an inch up from grip center).
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Re: How should I drill these?
The video didn't post in the original.Motogp69 wrote: Sorry, I put one with the original post, but for some reason it's not there now.
Here's the video:
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Re: How should I drill these?
How do I find out my Axis Tilt and Axis Rotation?Mo Pinel wrote: Need initial axis rotation and axis tilt to recommend effectively and I don't see a video.
Re: How should I drill these?
Mr. Pinel,
In terms of Axis of Rotation if you are referring to the standard 0, 45, and 90 degrees than I'm typically a 45, but I can change on the fly if need be depending on the condition.
In terms of Axis of Rotation if you are referring to the standard 0, 45, and 90 degrees than I'm typically a 45, but I can change on the fly if need be depending on the condition.
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Re: How should I drill these?
Motogp69 wrote: How do I find out my Axis Tilt and Axis Rotation?
Measure the distance across your initial track ring. Closest to grip center.
There's a chart in the wiki that will allow you to convert that number from inches to degrees.
Every 1/2" less track diameter of 13.5(full roller track, 0* tilt), is equal to 3.33 degrees of tilt. So 13" track diameter is 3.33 degrees of tilt. 12.5 is 6.66, 12 is 9.99, 11.5 13.32, 11 16.65
Etc
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Yeah, I'm going to measure it this afternoon. What about Axis Rotation? Or was I correct that he mean the standard 0,45, 90 degrees to the foul line method?MattCosta7 wrote:
Measure the distance across your initial track ring. Closest to grip center.
There's a chart in the wiki that will allow you to convert that number from inches to degrees.
Every 1/2" less track diameter of 13.5(full roller track, 0* tilt), is equal to 3.33 degrees of tilt. So 13" track diameter is 3.33 degrees of tilt. 12.5 is 6.66, 12 is 9.99, 11.5 13.32, 11 16.65
Etc
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Re: How should I drill these?
Estimates are the most practical way to measure it. There is a very extensive process to getting the exact number, that I once read in Mo's book, but I can't recall it, and I've never put it into practice. If you can visualize in 15 degree intervals, rather than 45, you'll get much more exacting information. 0,15,30,45,60,75,90Motogp69 wrote: Yeah, I'm going to measure it this afternoon. What about Axis Rotation? Or was I correct that he mean the standard 0,45, 90 degrees to the foul line method?
Base these both off your A game release, unless you're setting something up with the precondition that you'll be using it mostly with a B or C release
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Re: How should I drill these?
There was a picture of a ball with a grid system that can be used to visualize and estimate the axis rotation posted on the site in the past couple of days. It should be posted in the wiki so we may reference it in the future. Anyone remember which post it was in or the location in the wiki?MattCosta7 wrote: Estimates are the most practical way to measure it. There is a very extensive process to getting the exact number, that I once read in Mo's book, but I can't recall it, and I've never put it into practice. If you can visualize in 15 degree intervals, rather than 45, you'll get much more exacting information. 0,15,30,45,60,75,90
Base these both off your A game release, unless you're setting something up with the precondition that you'll be using it mostly with a B or C release
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Re: How should I drill these?
here is a link to it http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index. ... ltball.JPG
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Re: How should I drill these?
exactly my point about the use of the wiki... Thanks elgavachon!elgavachon wrote:here is a link to it http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index. ... ltball.JPG
Re: How should I drill these?
Okay well my tilt is 3 degrees, almost the circumfrence of the ball.
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Re: How should I drill these?
I finally got to see the video.Motogp69 wrote:Okay well my tilt is 3 degrees, almost the circumference of the ball.
Here are the specs that I am working with for you:
right handed
ball speed: approx. 18.5 mph in the heads
rev rate: 450 rpms
axis rotation: 45*
axis tilt: 3*
Hyroad as a benchmark ball: 70 / 4 1/2 / 40 with a P2 hole sanded 4000
Reign of Fire as a heavy oil ball: "Double Thumb" with box surface (1000)
Now, to help your delivery: get your right foot on the ground at the end of your follow thru to help you to stop from hitting up on the ball. The bird that stands on one leg is indigenous to Florida and is called a flamingo. There should not be any flamingos in bowling.
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Re: How should I drill these?
Can someone explain to me what my tilt means in relation to my other stats? My tilt track diameter on average was 26 1/2 to 26 3/4 if I'm doing it write.
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Re: How should I drill these?
Not possible! The distance across the track on the surface of the ball CANNOT exceed 13 1/2". That's how the axis tilt chart reads.Motogp69 wrote:Can someone explain to me what my tilt means in relation to my other stats? My tilt track diameter on average was 26 1/2 to 26 3/4 if I'm doing it write.
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Re: How should I drill these?
Sorry, meant circumfrence. So what are your thoughts?Mo Pinel wrote: Not possible! The distance across the track on the surface of the ball CANNOT exceed 13 1/2". That's how the axis tilt chart reads.
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Re: How should I drill these?
3* tilt would mean that you have very little axis tilt. It means that you will need to use layouts that assist in retaining tilt, in order to maximize carry.
It will mean that every revolution of the ball covers more surface, typically leading to an earlier read on the lane, and a smoother hook motion once it encounters friction.
It will also assist in making you more Rev Dominant than speed dominant. This is in addition to the RPM/Speed differences.
It will mean that every revolution of the ball covers more surface, typically leading to an earlier read on the lane, and a smoother hook motion once it encounters friction.
It will also assist in making you more Rev Dominant than speed dominant. This is in addition to the RPM/Speed differences.