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 Post subject: full roller layout
 Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:18 pm Post Number: #1 Post
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just wondering if a dual thumb layout has been tested in a full roller and if so how would you do it,is there a variation of the gradient line weight hole or is drilling the fingers deeper the best option to change reaction.No hurry, nothing I'm working on just curious.

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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:33 pm Post Number: #2 Post
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just wondering if a dual thumb layout has been tested in a full roller and if so how would you do it,is there a variation of the gradient line weight hole or is drilling the fingers deeper the best option to change reaction.No hurry, nothing I'm working on just curious.


There is a variation for full rollers using a pitched balance hole. I'll have MathIsTruth do the CAD work and post the diagrams when we get time. Please give us some time.


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:06 am Post Number: #3 Post
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thank you.
I appreciate the time you, Math and Paul give to our post

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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:18 pm Post Number: #4 Post
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RedRiverCoach wrote:
thank you.
I appreciate the time you, Math and Paul give to our post


Thank you... I want to learn the results of this layout myself but it may be a couple of weeks before I can get to it. I am behind on a couple other projects after fighting a computer virus last week so bear with me. thanks...


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:49 pm Post Number: #5 Post
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Thanks for the bump!! Mo and I discussed the layout on Friday (yesterday) afternoon. I will work on this very soon. I've been trying to finish other projects. Thanks for the reminder!!


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:33 am Post Number: #6 Post
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Still working on this redrivercoach... I have the difficult part of this project done, I hope. Another day or three and I should be ready to post the results. Thanks for the patience...


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:22 pm Post Number: #7 Post
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Thank you for your patience on this project and on the recommendation. I am glad to say that I have finished the full roller project and placed the results in the wiki in the articles section. The results can be found here...

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index. ... Comparison

Feel free to ask any further questions and we hope to receive feedback on the performance of the aggressive layout. Thanks again..

steve freshour


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:37 pm Post Number: #8 Post
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MathIsTruth wrote:
Thank you for your patience on this project and on the recommendation. I am glad to say that I have finished the full roller project and placed the results in the wiki in the articles section. The results can be found here...

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index. ... Comparison

Feel free to ask any further questions and we hope to receive feedback on the performance of the aggressive layout. Thanks again..

steve freshour


People of bowlingchat,

This is the first time this "Aggressive Full Roller" layout has been presented. IT IS BRAND NEW! and you saw it here first! It represents a lot of thorough accurate CAD research. It is currently only for asymmetrical balls because, as you know, it is much easier to control the PSA on asymmetrical balls. The research into symmetrical balls is more detailed because the PSA of a symmetrical ball can move a lot when each hole is drilled into the ball. The symmetrical "Aggressive Full Roller" layout may look completely different. Give MathIsTruth the time it takes to do the research on the symmetrical ball.

This is a feather in bowling chat's cap because it is BREAKTHROUGH research. My gratitude goes to MathIsTruth for his thorough research. THANKS, STEVE. GREAT WORK!!!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:45 pm Post Number: #9 Post
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Awesome job Steve.
This is the power of collaboration and determination.
The article looks great on the wiki, thanks for posting it here first.

You may want to lock it down to prevent editing.

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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:44 am Post Number: #10 Post
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MegaMav wrote:
Awesome job Steve.
This is the power of collaboration and determination.
The article looks great on the wiki, thanks for posting it here first.

You may want to lock it down to prevent editing.

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Someone lock it down, please!


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:11 am Post Number: #11 Post
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Mo Pinel wrote:
Someone lock it down, please!


In Steve's absence, I have locked the article for administrator editing only (Me, Paul, Steve).


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:13 am Post Number: #12 Post
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I know our resident "lefty" full roller is looking forward to trying this out.

Question: Do the PIN - CG - PSA need to be on a straight line for this aggressive layout to work? If they are not on a straight line does the bowtie shift from the center of grip?


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:47 am Post Number: #13 Post
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I have a few full rollers who often can't get enough from their equipment and would probably be willing to try this out.

Thanks Steve!

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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:55 am Post Number: #14 Post
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Vendetta wrote:
I know our resident "lefty" full roller is looking forward to trying this out.

Question: Do the PIN - CG - PSA need to be on a straight line for this aggressive layout to work? If they are not on a straight line does the bowtie shift from the center of grip?


They don't need to be in a line. Line up the pin and the PSA as always. Within an inch of lining up always makes it easier.


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:44 am Post Number: #15 Post
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Thank you very much.I have been curious about this and it just so happens I have a ball to drill for a full roller,I will let you know how it does for him.
Thanks again Steve and Mo

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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:46 am Post Number: #16 Post
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RedRiverCoach wrote:
Thank you very much.I have been curious about this and it just so happens I have a ball to drill for a full roller,I will let you know how it does for him.
Thanks again Steve and Mo


What ball does he have in mind?


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:41 pm Post Number: #17 Post
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RedRiverCoach wrote:
Thank you very much.I have been curious about this and it just so happens I have a ball to drill for a full roller,I will let you know how it does for him.
Thanks again Steve and Mo


Remember, the posted layout is for ASYMMETRICAL balls only. We will post the full roller aggressive symmetrical drilling shortly. The drilling for symmetrical balls has to be different because of where the PSA of the drilled ball ends up. MathIsTruth did a great job on the project, as always.


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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:08 pm Post Number: #18 Post
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I'm drilling a Morich N'sane LevRG for him

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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:16 pm Post Number: #19 Post
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The same bowler has also purchased a Storm Reign but is in no hurry to drill it until Steve has completed his work,I know 3 full rollers who are very excited about this,I am also sharing the info with our local P-S so it will help other bowlers in the future.This is one more example of what you,Steve and Paul have done for the bowling community and I can't thank you enough

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 Post subject: Re: full roller layout
 Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:12 pm Post Number: #20 Post
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The second part of the full roller layout study on symmetrical equipment is now finished and can be viewed on the wiki using the following link. Thank you again for the recommendation and the positive feedback. Please note the differences when using the aggressive layout between symmetrical and asymmetrical bowling balls.

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index. ... ymmetrical

Redrivercoach, I am glad to hear about your 3 friends and hope to hear back about the N'sane and the Storm Reign. enjoy...


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