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 Post subject: Aggressive Full Roller Layouts--Hammer Plague
 Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:28 am Post Number: #1 Post
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I've got a repeat customer who likes to buy bowling balls. He is a full roller and pretty much everything reacts the same for him. Being an "Mo fan" and avid reader of BTM, I suggested the next ball we drill we use the aggressive full roller layout. He is a Hammer guy, so he wanted the Plague.

I punched it up for him Monday night. The ball had a long pin and 2oz of top. It required only a small hole to make legal, so we started there and headed to the lanes.

The backend motion was complete new for him. The ball made a stand up arc(not quite angular) that he just doesn't see from other typical layouts. It made me a believer and totally sold me on the layout. We use a 42ft pattern, he was able to move into the oil and get recovery like he has never seen on this shot.

Mo, are there any tweaks to this to give full rollers slightly different reactions?

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 Post subject: Re: Aggressive Full Roller Layouts--Hammer Plague
 Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:06 pm Post Number: #2 Post
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fufu wrote:
I've got a repeat customer who likes to buy bowling balls. He is a full roller and pretty much everything reacts the same for him. Being an "Mo fan" and avid reader of BTM, I suggested the next ball we drill we use the aggressive full roller layout. He is a Hammer guy, so he wanted the Plague.

I punched it up for him Monday night. The ball had a long pin and 2oz of top. It required only a small hole to make legal, so we started there and headed to the lanes.

The backend motion was complete new for him. The ball made a stand up arc(not quite angular) that he just doesn't see from other typical layouts. It made me a believer and totally sold me on the layout. We use a 42ft pattern, he was able to move into the oil and get recovery like he has never seen on this shot.

Mo, are there any tweaks to this to give full rollers slightly different reactions?


The only tweak is to decrease the pin to center of grip distance to delay reaction by decreasing the flare. Also, the size of the balance hole will have a big effect. The bigger the hole, the more you increase both diffs.


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 Post subject: Re: Aggressive Full Roller Layouts--Hammer Plague
 Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:06 am Post Number: #3 Post
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Hi Mo,

I know this post is a little old but it has the most relevant info for what I was looking for. I have a full roller who wants length with a strong backend reaction and I was thinking about using the aggressive full roller layout, but on a medium performance polished ball. Do you think that is the best way to delay the reaction some, or would a stronger ball with your tweak of moving the pin closer to COG be better? Or maybe a combination of both? I'm tweaking a Mutant Cell for him with the aggressive layout so he will have a strong ball with a dull surface, and originally he was thinking about a Nano for a long / strong reaction but I was thinking that might be too strong of a cover for the length he is looking for (unless we keep it polished).

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 Post subject: Re: Aggressive Full Roller Layouts--Hammer Plague
 Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:07 pm Post Number: #4 Post
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fufu wrote:
I've got a repeat customer who likes to buy bowling balls. He is a full roller and pretty much everything reacts the same for him. Being an "Mo fan" and avid reader of BTM, I suggested the next ball we drill we use the aggressive full roller layout. He is a Hammer guy, so he wanted the Plague.

I punched it up for him Monday night. The ball had a long pin and 2oz of top. It required only a small hole to make legal, so we started there and headed to the lanes.

The backend motion was complete new for him. The ball made a stand up arc(not quite angular) that he just doesn't see from other typical layouts. It made me a believer and totally sold me on the layout. We use a 42ft pattern, he was able to move into the oil and get recovery like he has never seen on this shot.

Mo, are there any tweaks to this to give full rollers slightly different reactions?


Glad that did what it was supposed to. Now, drill him a DestroyR. He'll definitely have to move deeper into the oil.


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