layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

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layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

Post by jdrsuper » June 16th, 2019, 6:25 am

folks,
I just couldn't resist a 12 lb Pathogen Blue Dot with SG 19.5 Dual Density Asymmetric core with a shiny polyester coverstock. My specs are in my signature. I probably shouldn't have got it as I have a widow spare but still looking at weak equipment that may suit my lack of speed with my high axis rotation. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Joel Resnick
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Re: layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

Post by EricHartwell » June 17th, 2019, 12:52 am

jdrsuper wrote:folks,
I just couldn't resist a 12 lb Pathogen Blue Dot with SG 19.5 Dual Density Asymmetric core with a shiny polyester coverstock. My specs are in my signature. I probably shouldn't have got it as I have a widow spare but still looking at weak equipment that may suit my lack of speed with my high axis rotation. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Wish I had better information specifically for the 12# Pathogen Blue Dot.
If I was going to layout this ball for myself I would be spinning it on a determinator before drilling it.

Any suggestion on my part would be just a guess.
Eric Hartwell

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PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand

jdrsuper
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Medium Oil Ball: Track Paradox
Light Oil Ball: Hammer Widow Black Urethane
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Re: layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

Post by jdrsuper » June 17th, 2019, 1:35 am

EricHartwell wrote: Wish I had better information specifically for the 12# Pathogen Blue Dot.
If I was going to layout this ball for myself I would be spinning it on a determinator before drilling it.

Any suggestion on my part would be just a guess.
Eric,
Thanks for being truthful and I will see if my PSO has a determinator but I doubt that he does. In any case I'll take a guess from you anytime,if not I'll look at there layout suggestions and go from there.
Joel Resnick
Hand: Left
PAP: 4 11/16 over 1 up
Speed: 13 off hand
Rev Rate: 200
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Axis Rotation: 75

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Re: layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

Post by EricHartwell » June 17th, 2019, 2:11 am

Was there not any information with the ball?
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Light Oil Ball: Hammer Widow Black Urethane
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Re: layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

Post by jdrsuper » June 17th, 2019, 7:48 am

EricHartwell wrote:Was there not any information with the ball?
I haven't received the ball yet from bowlingball.com and the information on the website only gives numbers RG 2.48 Diff 0.039 and that what it shows when I ask for a 12 or a 15 lb ball. I will call them tomorrow and see if I can get some real numbers for a 12 lb ball. Thanks again.
Joel Resnick
Hand: Left
PAP: 4 11/16 over 1 up
Speed: 13 off hand
Rev Rate: 200
Axis Tilt: 24
Axis Rotation: 75

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Positive Axis Point: 4 11/16 over 1 up
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Medium Oil Ball: Track Paradox
Light Oil Ball: Hammer Widow Black Urethane
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Re: layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

Post by jdrsuper » June 17th, 2019, 9:03 pm

jdrsuper wrote: I haven't received the ball yet from bowlingball.com and the information on the website only gives numbers RG 2.48 Diff 0.039 and that what it shows when I ask for a 12 or a 15 lb ball. I will call them tomorrow and see if I can get some real numbers for a 12 lb ball. Thanks again.
Eric,
I called bowlingball.com and got the answer I was afraid I'd get the numbers are for 15lb balls and they haven't got the numbers for the rest of the weights from the manufacturer which he wouldn't disclose. The core is the same supposedly in all weights. So I guess my PSO and I will have to figure out a layout for the ball. Thanks as always for your help and I understand without the relevant information you can't make a layout suggestion.
Joel Resnick
Hand: Left
PAP: 4 11/16 over 1 up
Speed: 13 off hand
Rev Rate: 200
Axis Tilt: 24
Axis Rotation: 75

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Light Oil Ball: Blue Hammer, Columbia Nitrous
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Re: layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

Post by EricHartwell » June 17th, 2019, 9:43 pm

Try to contact Pyramid.
They would be a better source than bowlingball.com.
Eric Hartwell

Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
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Joined: March 7th, 2015, 12:44 am
Positive Axis Point: 4 11/16 over 1 up
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Heavy Oil Ball: Track Logix
Medium Oil Ball: Track Paradox
Light Oil Ball: Hammer Widow Black Urethane
Preferred Company: Ebonite Brands

Re: layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

Post by jdrsuper » June 17th, 2019, 10:27 pm

EricHartwell wrote:Try to contact Pyramid.
They would be a better source than bowlingball.com.
Eric,
This is there numbers and the only numbers for a 15 lb core ball from there website.
RG 2.55

Differential
0.032
Mass Bias Diff n/a
Durometer
Flare Potential 2-4" (Medium)
Factory Finish Factory Finish Polish
Weights 12-16

I sent an inquiry to their email address info@pryamidbowling .com asking for the specs for a 12lb Blue Dot and will see what the answer is.
Joel Resnick
Hand: Left
PAP: 4 11/16 over 1 up
Speed: 13 off hand
Rev Rate: 200
Axis Tilt: 24
Axis Rotation: 75

No matter what you are trying to do remember simplicity gives better results than over complicating things.

jdrsuper
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Posts: 179
Joined: March 7th, 2015, 12:44 am
Positive Axis Point: 4 11/16 over 1 up
Speed: 13 off hand
Rev Rate: 200
Axis Tilt: 24
Axis Rotation: 75
Heavy Oil Ball: Track Logix
Medium Oil Ball: Track Paradox
Light Oil Ball: Hammer Widow Black Urethane
Preferred Company: Ebonite Brands

Re: layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

Post by jdrsuper » June 18th, 2019, 8:25 pm

jdrsuper wrote: Eric,
This is there numbers and the only numbers for a 15 lb core ball from there website.
RG 2.55

Differential
0.032
Mass Bias Diff n/a
Durometer
Flare Potential 2-4" (Medium)
Factory Finish Factory Finish Polish
Weights 12-16

I sent an inquiry to their email address info@pryamidbowling .com asking for the specs for a 12lb Blue Dot and will see what the answer is.
Eric,

No answer from my inquiry to Pryamid, hopefully they will answer me. From what I've been able to find out most of their balls are poured in Mexico or China. I looked at their layouts and they look generic probably for all their balls. It supposed to arrive Friday but I don't expect any more information that I have already found.
Joel Resnick
Hand: Left
PAP: 4 11/16 over 1 up
Speed: 13 off hand
Rev Rate: 200
Axis Tilt: 24
Axis Rotation: 75

No matter what you are trying to do remember simplicity gives better results than over complicating things.

jdrsuper
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Posts: 179
Joined: March 7th, 2015, 12:44 am
Positive Axis Point: 4 11/16 over 1 up
Speed: 13 off hand
Rev Rate: 200
Axis Tilt: 24
Axis Rotation: 75
Heavy Oil Ball: Track Logix
Medium Oil Ball: Track Paradox
Light Oil Ball: Hammer Widow Black Urethane
Preferred Company: Ebonite Brands

Re: layout for Prymid Pathogen Blue Dot

Post by jdrsuper » June 19th, 2019, 6:21 pm

jdrsuper wrote:
Eric,
I don't expect to get an answer to my question and additionally on Bowlingball.com website whether you look and at urethane ,symmetric,asymmetric, (reactive resin) you get the same 6 generic layouts.
I'll work with my PSO to layout the ball. As always thanks for your help.

Eric,

No answer from my inquiry to Pryamid, hopefully they will answer me. From what I've been able to find out most of their balls are poured in Mexico or China. I looked at their layouts and they look generic probably for all their balls. It supposed to arrive Friday but I don't expect any more information that I have already found.
Joel Resnick
Hand: Left
PAP: 4 11/16 over 1 up
Speed: 13 off hand
Rev Rate: 200
Axis Tilt: 24
Axis Rotation: 75

No matter what you are trying to do remember simplicity gives better results than over complicating things.

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