Looking for a layout for a More Cash

Which layout is right for me?

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doopshanks
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Looking for a layout for a More Cash

Post by doopshanks »

Hi all,

A little back story... I currently throw a Quick Fix (60 x 4.5 x 30) and a OG Katana (50 x 4.75 x 35) that work great at most bowling centers. However, the layout I want for the More Cash are for lanes that are for a league at a Dave & Busters type of family fun establishment. I'm fairly certain that the back-ends have never been stripped, so there seems to be no real friction. No idea of the oil pattern, and when asking the staff (kids), they give me that glazed over deer in the headlights look. My Katana rolls like a glorified spare ball, the Quick Fix grabs a little better. (suspect pearl balls just won't cut it) By the third game, the oil miraculously disappears and finally start to get some traction.

And, yes - I have tried surface adjustments.

My Specs: (need to get re-spec'd here one of these days - maybe BowlerID)
Tweener
14#
Right Hander
Revised PAP: 4.625 >^ 1.125 (4 5/8 -> ^ 1 1/8)
Ball Speed Off Hand: 15-15.5 mph
RPM: 260-275
Axis Rot.: 55 - 60
Axis Tilt: 44 (I suspect it's a tad lower)

Thanks in advance.
..... Jim

Right Hander
PAP: 5.125 Right, Up .75
Ball Speed Off Hand: 16-17 mph
RPM: 275-325
Axis Rot.: 45-55
Axis Tilt: 13
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MegaMav
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THS Average: 225
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Positive Axis Point: 5.5 Over & 1 Up
Speed: 16.0 MPH - Camera
Rev Rate: 375
Axis Tilt: 14
Axis Rotation: 45
Heavy Oil Ball: Radical - Informer
Medium Oil Ball: Brunswick - Fearless
Light Oil Ball: Radical - Bonus Pearl
Preferred Company: Radical Bowling Technologies
Location: Malta, NY

Re: Looking for a layout for a More Cash

Post by MegaMav »

doopshanks wrote: My Specs: (need to get re-spec'd here one of these days - maybe BowlerID)
Tweener
14#
Right Hander
Revised PAP: 4.625 >^ 1.125 (4 5/8 -> ^ 1 1/8)
Ball Speed Off Hand: 15-15.5 mph
RPM: 260-275
Axis Rot.: 55 - 60
Axis Tilt: 44 (I suspect it's a tad lower)

Thanks in advance.
How was the tilt measured?
doopshanks
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Posts: 7
Joined: January 28th, 2019, 5:39 pm
THS Average: 190
Sport Average: 168
Positive Axis Point: 5" right, up .5"
Speed: 15 camera
Rev Rate: 300
Axis Tilt: 13
Axis Rotation: 50
Preferred Company: Radical
Location: N. Colorado

Re: Looking for a layout for a More Cash

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PSO did a video analysis, that's the number he gave me for tilt and axis
..... Jim

Right Hander
PAP: 5.125 Right, Up .75
Ball Speed Off Hand: 16-17 mph
RPM: 275-325
Axis Rot.: 45-55
Axis Tilt: 13
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MegaMav
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Posts: 4694
Joined: April 27th, 2007, 5:00 am
THS Average: 225
Sport Average: 200
Positive Axis Point: 5.5 Over & 1 Up
Speed: 16.0 MPH - Camera
Rev Rate: 375
Axis Tilt: 14
Axis Rotation: 45
Heavy Oil Ball: Radical - Informer
Medium Oil Ball: Brunswick - Fearless
Light Oil Ball: Radical - Bonus Pearl
Preferred Company: Radical Bowling Technologies
Location: Malta, NY

Re: Looking for a layout for a More Cash

Post by MegaMav »

I suspect it is incorrect.
Please have it hand measured by track diameter.
doopshanks
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Posts: 7
Joined: January 28th, 2019, 5:39 pm
THS Average: 190
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Positive Axis Point: 5" right, up .5"
Speed: 15 camera
Rev Rate: 300
Axis Tilt: 13
Axis Rotation: 50
Preferred Company: Radical
Location: N. Colorado

Re: Looking for a layout for a More Cash

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Will do. I've read the wiki, looks fairly straightforward.
..... Jim

Right Hander
PAP: 5.125 Right, Up .75
Ball Speed Off Hand: 16-17 mph
RPM: 275-325
Axis Rot.: 45-55
Axis Tilt: 13
doopshanks
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Member
Posts: 7
Joined: January 28th, 2019, 5:39 pm
THS Average: 190
Sport Average: 168
Positive Axis Point: 5" right, up .5"
Speed: 15 camera
Rev Rate: 300
Axis Tilt: 13
Axis Rotation: 50
Preferred Company: Radical
Location: N. Colorado

Re: Looking for a layout for a More Cash

Post by doopshanks »

11.5" , so 13 degrees
..... Jim

Right Hander
PAP: 5.125 Right, Up .75
Ball Speed Off Hand: 16-17 mph
RPM: 275-325
Axis Rot.: 45-55
Axis Tilt: 13
User avatar
MegaMav
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4694
Joined: April 27th, 2007, 5:00 am
THS Average: 225
Sport Average: 200
Positive Axis Point: 5.5 Over & 1 Up
Speed: 16.0 MPH - Camera
Rev Rate: 375
Axis Tilt: 14
Axis Rotation: 45
Heavy Oil Ball: Radical - Informer
Medium Oil Ball: Brunswick - Fearless
Light Oil Ball: Radical - Bonus Pearl
Preferred Company: Radical Bowling Technologies
Location: Malta, NY

Re: Looking for a layout for a More Cash

Post by MegaMav »

doopshanks wrote:11.5" , so 13 degrees
OK, I'd drill it 50 x 3.25 x 40.
Should be a really smooth, hard arcing look for you.
doopshanks
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Posts: 7
Joined: January 28th, 2019, 5:39 pm
THS Average: 190
Sport Average: 168
Positive Axis Point: 5" right, up .5"
Speed: 15 camera
Rev Rate: 300
Axis Tilt: 13
Axis Rotation: 50
Preferred Company: Radical
Location: N. Colorado

Re: Looking for a layout for a More Cash

Post by doopshanks »

Sweet! Thanks a bunch.
..... Jim

Right Hander
PAP: 5.125 Right, Up .75
Ball Speed Off Hand: 16-17 mph
RPM: 275-325
Axis Rot.: 45-55
Axis Tilt: 13
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