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 Post subject: layout for a 12lb plastic widow spare
 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:32 am Post Number: #1 Post
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My specs can be found in my signature. I realize in a 12lb widow spare the gas mask core isn't there. Is the core that they use still make the ball asymmetrical? Either way I am looking for a strike ball for dry conditions, sport or house shot that will give me the most carry. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am asking this because I can no longer throw reactive resin or urethane straight up the boards between the one and the 15 on house shots because of my release and lack of speed.

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 Post subject: Re: layout for a 12lb plastic widow spare
 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:43 pm Post Number: #2 Post
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jdrsuper wrote:
My specs can be found in my signature. I realize in a 12lb widow spare the gas mask core isn't there. Is the core that they use still make the ball asymmetrical? Either way I am looking for a strike ball for dry conditions, sport or house shot that will give me the most carry. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am asking this because I can no longer throw reactive resin or urethane straight up the boards between the one and the 15 on house shots because of my release and lack of speed.

No the ball is Symmetrical.
75-4-30 Drill the thumbhole as deep as possible

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 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:38 pm Post Number: #3 Post
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EricHartwell wrote:
No the ball is Symmetrical.
75-4-30 Drill the thumbhole as deep as possible


Eric,
This is the response I got from Ebonite.
Joel,



The Widow Spare uses the same Gas Mask Core all the way down to the 12lb balls.



Mitch Beasley

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Ebonite International Inc.

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MBeasley@EBIbowling.com

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With this information would you change your layout for the ball. As always I appreciate your help and thank you. One other question with the new static weight rules would it be possible to layout that ball so
it has 3 oz of side weight? Thanks again.

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 Post subject: Re: layout for a 12lb plastic widow spare
 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:14 pm Post Number: #4 Post
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jdrsuper wrote:
The Widow Spare uses the same Gas Mask Core all the way down to the 12lb balls.

That is good news. Hopefully they will follow suit and offer that core in the other lighter weight Widow Models.

Yes it does make a difference. 45-4.5-45 your Benchmark layout

I should have modeled the layout 45-4.5-45 before making my post. The pin will be very close to the ring finger. I would adjust the layout to 45-4.5-40 to make for more clearance from the pin to finger.

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 Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:43 am Post Number: #5 Post
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EricHartwell wrote:
That is good news. Hopefully they will follow suit and offer that core in the other lighter weight Widow Models.

Yes it does make a difference. 45-4.5-45 your Benchmark layout

I should have modeled the layout 45-4.5-45 before making my post. The pin will be very close to the ring finger. I would adjust the layout to 45-4.5-40 to make for more clearance from the pin to finger.

Thanks a lot Eric for all your help. Is it possible, I have no idea to layout the ball to get 3 oz of side weight and still be legal?

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 Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:34 am Post Number: #6 Post
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jdrsuper wrote:
Thanks a lot Eric for all your help. Is it possible, I have no idea to layout the ball to get 3 oz of side weight and still be legal?

This type of layout used to need a balance hole P2 to maintain legal static weight. Depending on what you have for starting top weight it is going to have a good amount of positive side weight.

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 Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:32 am Post Number: #7 Post
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EricHartwell wrote:
This type of layout used to need a balance hole P2 to maintain legal static weight. Depending on what you have for starting top weight it is going to have a good amount of positive side weight.


Thanks again Eric i'll use your layout and hopefully it has decent top weight but no matter,will see how it performs.

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