Hey guys,

Few years back MattInTheHat and Mo helped me layout my Pink Panther and it has been the most consistent and reliable ball I've ever had. After a few years off, I want to get back into bowling. Went to the alley to get some practice and this ball is still amazing for me. So first and foremost, thank you.

With the new rules and coverstock advancements I was hoping you can assist me with my next ball. As of today I've been eyeing the Storm Physics, but not locked in, open to ideas, but will go with a similar Asym RG/Dff ball either way. My goal is to find a ball that can do the exact same thing, for slightly heavier volumes, with a touch more angle/pop/movement on the backend than my current benchmark ball. Normally I'd just have drilled it close and adjusted with a balance hole, but that's not really an option anymore. (I know I have until 2020, but I'd rather just conform now)

As a refresher, the Pink Panther is a Symmetrical cored ball, RG 2.493, Diff .043, OOB surface, (well whatever's left of it)

My specs from video:
Tilt: 8 - 12
Rotation: 70 - 75
Speed: 14.75 - 16 (whole lane average*) (est. 17 mph at release)
Revs: 225 - 240

Mo's original recommendations:
"Those numbers make you speed dominant. I have your sweet spot @ 85* with a bench mark layout of 55 / 4 / 30 for asyms and 60 / 3 1/4 / 25 for syms."

The Pink Panther is drilled exactly as Mo recommended, 60x3.25x25 which results in the actual post-drilling measurement of 65x3.25x25 (To the right edge of my Thumb Hole.) No Balance Hole.

So for this layout, I wanted to make sure I don't over-do it, since it's already going to be a stronger cover, as well as a stronger ball being that it's Asym. I also know that I'm close to the minimum VAL angle already. I was hoping the greater minds here could chime in, as I don't have a clue how far coverstocks have come, and I'm unaware of the immediate differences the Asym will create, whether I even need to alter the angles, or let Pin to Pap handles it, or whether I should use my post-drill angles as my baseline, or the recommended from above.

I come up the back quite a bit it seems and am a High Tracker. I assume I bowl on a Typical House shot, but don't actually know the units or length. It's definitely not any type of Sport Shot.

Current Arsenal is the PP mentioned above as my true benchmark ball. A PP Pearl with the exact same layout (probably a little less on the drill angle due to a small balance hole) that I never use, and a Hy-Wire drilled MOtion Hole that I'm still having trouble finding the right conditions to use on. Ton of other stuff in the closet I'll end up just throwing away or donating.

Thank you!

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Tilt: 8 - 12
Rotation: 70 - 75
Speed: 14.75 - 16 (whole lane average*)
Revs: 225 - 240
Pink Panther 60x3.25x25

Storm Physix ................ 75-4-35

This layout would be considered long and strong for your specs. From what I have read about the Physix the coverstock is going to read the midlane stronger than your old trusted Pink Panther. The original surface on the PP was a 2x polish, very shiny. Lane shine has undoubtedly dulled the surface from its original but not as dull as the Physix's 3000 grit matte finish on Storms NRG coverstock, it is a strong one.
So, I went with the Long and Strong recommendation to help it be closer to the Pink Panther. I am not sure how well the Physix will shine up. It is going to need a shine to be anything like the PP. Out of the box the Physix is a much stronger/earlier ball than the PP even with the long and strong layout.

Personally I wouldn't want the same reaction as the Pink Panther. Unless you are planning on retiring the Pink.

The Intense Fire 65-4-30 could be drilled to be more like the Pink Panther with that touch more angle/pop/movement on the backend that you are looking for.


You still have tuning options. Drilliing the Thumb deeper will make it stronger.
To lessen the reaction drill the ring finger deeper.

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Eric Hartwell

Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand