Layout recommendation request

Which layout is right for me?

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purpledogcreek
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THS Average: 200
Positive Axis Point: PAP 4.63 up 1.25" (lefty)
Speed: 17 mph monitor
Rev Rate: 280
Axis Tilt: 20*
Axis Rotation: 70*
Medium Oil Ball: Storm IQ Tour
Preferred Company: Storm

Layout recommendation request

Post by purpledogcreek »

Hello! (first time post )
Would appreciate help with layouts for 2 balls:Brunswick Kingpin, solid asym and Storm Street Fight, pearl sym.

Lefty Stroker player on THS, synthetic lanes. (42' length w/23 ml oil).
Average: 200
Speed: 16.5-17 (monitor)
axis tilt: 20 (exactly)
axis rotation: 65-70 (about)
RMP: 325
4-5/8" over, 1-1/4 up

Thanks!
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EricHartwell
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Positive Axis Point: 4-3/4" and 1/2"up
Speed: 16 off hand
Rev Rate: 330
Axis Tilt: 12
Axis Rotation: 45
Heavy Oil Ball: Radical Tremendous, EVO solid, Hammer Obsession
Medium Oil Ball: EVO pearl, True Motion, Columbia Command, DV8 Intimidator
Light Oil Ball: Blue Hammer
Location: Michigan

Re: Layout recommendation request

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purpledogcreek wrote:Hello! (first time post )
Would appreciate help with layouts for 2 balls:Brunswick Kingpin, solid asym and Storm Street Fight, pearl sym.

Lefty Stroker player on THS, synthetic lanes. (42' length w/23 ml oil).
Average: 200
Speed: 16.5-17 (monitor)
axis tilt: 20 (exactly)
axis rotation: 65-70 (about)
RMP: 325
4-5/8" over, 1-1/4 up

Thanks!
Welcome to BowlingChat

I always start by figuring the Benchmark with a basic arsenal list.
You are slightly speed dominant with med/high tilt and rotation.
Totals 80* 1:1.5 Ratio

Asymmetrical Layouts ...
Totally Strong .............. 30-5-30
Midlane ...................... 20-4.5-40
Benchmark ................. 30-4.5-50
Long and Strong .......... 50-4-50
Control ....................... 30-4-70
low flare ..................... 50-2.25-50

Symmetrical Layouts ...
Long and Strong ........ xx-3-45
Control ...................... xx-3.75-65 (pin in the Ring finger)

For a house shot I would recommend the Long and Strong and Control layouts
I would go with the Control layout on the Kingpin 30-4-70
As for the Street Fight xx-3-45 for the long and Strong
Eric Hartwell

Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
purpledogcreek
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Posts: 14
Joined: September 17th, 2018, 2:16 am
THS Average: 200
Positive Axis Point: PAP 4.63 up 1.25" (lefty)
Speed: 17 mph monitor
Rev Rate: 280
Axis Tilt: 20*
Axis Rotation: 70*
Medium Oil Ball: Storm IQ Tour
Preferred Company: Storm

Re: Layout recommendation request

Post by purpledogcreek »

Thanks Eric,
I appreciate you responding so quickly to my post.
Took your advise and had them both drilled up this morning.
I may get to try them out tomorrow, if not, Thursday for sure.
I'll let you know how it went.
purpledogcreek
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Posts: 14
Joined: September 17th, 2018, 2:16 am
THS Average: 200
Positive Axis Point: PAP 4.63 up 1.25" (lefty)
Speed: 17 mph monitor
Rev Rate: 280
Axis Tilt: 20*
Axis Rotation: 70*
Medium Oil Ball: Storm IQ Tour
Preferred Company: Storm

Re: Layout recommendation request

Post by purpledogcreek »

I've enjoyed good success with the drillings you recommended.
I've thrown 10 games, the top two scores with the Street Fight are 286 & 240, the Kingpin 258 & 219 with an o/a average of 210.

I do have another question: I just bought the Radical Ludicrous (asym) and was wondering which drilling you recommend for that ball, the benchmark, low flare or other?

Thanks.
Left Handed
PAP 4.63" up 1.25"
70* rotation
20* tilt
280 rev rate
17 mph (monitor)
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EricHartwell
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Positive Axis Point: 4-3/4" and 1/2"up
Speed: 16 off hand
Rev Rate: 330
Axis Tilt: 12
Axis Rotation: 45
Heavy Oil Ball: Radical Tremendous, EVO solid, Hammer Obsession
Medium Oil Ball: EVO pearl, True Motion, Columbia Command, DV8 Intimidator
Light Oil Ball: Blue Hammer
Location: Michigan

Re: Layout recommendation request

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purpledogcreek wrote:I've enjoyed good success with the drillings you recommended.
I've thrown 10 games, the top two scores with the Street Fight are 286 & 240, the Kingpin 258 & 219 with an o/a average of 210.

I do have another question: I just bought the Radical Ludicrous (asym) and was wondering which drilling you recommend for that ball, the benchmark, low flare or other?

Thanks.
The low flare layout is risky for your release specifically your higher tilt and rotation. It would definitely be a condition specific ball, dryer lanes.
The Benchmark layout will be a strong angular backend reaction.

I would go with benchmark totals with a control ratio. 25-4-55 (pin in the ring finger)
Eric Hartwell

Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
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