I culd use some suggestions for layouts for shorter (< 38') sport patterns.
Sport patterns have much less front to back taper and because of my ball roll (375-400 RPM, 70 degrees axis rotation, and 11 degree tilt) I have a hard time blending out the ball reaction.
I'm considering trying a low drill angle (20-30 degrees) and a higher VAL (60+) to control the shape out of the pattern. Also, I'm LH, so I rarely get to see the pattern transition and smooth out.
Thoughts?
Low tilt, high axis rotation on shorter/flatter patterns
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- Mongo
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- Axis Rotation: 80
- Preferred Company: DV8/Radical
Low tilt, high axis rotation on shorter/flatter patterns
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JMerrell wrote:Mongo,
We need to work on getting that teddy bear body of yours more open throughout the approach.
- MegaMav
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Re: Low tilt, high axis rotation on shorter/flatter patterns
Whats your speed on the monitor?Mongo wrote:I culd use some suggestions for layouts for shorter (< 38') sport patterns.
Sport patterns have much less front to back taper and because of my ball roll (375-400 RPM, 70 degrees axis rotation, and 11 degree tilt) I have a hard time blending out the ball reaction.
I'm considering trying a low drill angle (20-30 degrees) and a higher VAL (60+) to control the shape out of the pattern. Also, I'm LH, so I rarely get to see the pattern transition and smooth out.
Thoughts?
- Mongo
- Certified Coach
- Posts: 471
- Joined: March 13th, 2014, 5:33 am
- THS Average: 225
- Positive Axis Point: 4 1/2" over, 1 1/2" up
- Speed: 18 MPH
- Rev Rate: 375
- Axis Tilt: 12
- Axis Rotation: 80
- Preferred Company: DV8/Radical
Re: Low tilt, high axis rotation on shorter/flatter patterns
17.5-18 MPH. I can vary from 16 to 19 (I'm not good at slowing it down, but I can pull it off)MegaMav wrote:
Whats your speed on the monitor?
Currently, I've tried bigger sums (130+) on these shots. For example, I've got a Mission Unknown at 500 with a 70 X 4 X 70. It's smooth on most conditions, but on shots with little/no taper, it goes sideways unless I go dead up the back of it.
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JMerrell wrote:Mongo,
We need to work on getting that teddy bear body of yours more open throughout the approach.
- MegaMav
- Moderator
- Posts: 4694
- Joined: April 27th, 2007, 5:00 am
- THS Average: 225
- Sport Average: 200
- Positive Axis Point: 5.5 Over & 1 Up
- Speed: 16.0 MPH - Camera
- Rev Rate: 375
- Axis Tilt: 14
- Axis Rotation: 45
- Heavy Oil Ball: Radical - Informer
- Medium Oil Ball: Brunswick - Fearless
- Light Oil Ball: Radical - Bonus Pearl
- Preferred Company: Radical Bowling Technologies
- Location: Malta, NY
Re: Low tilt, high axis rotation on shorter/flatter patterns
Consider:
Tremendous: 40 x 3.5 x 55 for a nice smooth look.
Tremendous: 40 x 3.5 x 55 for a nice smooth look.
Re: Low tilt, high axis rotation on shorter/flatter patterns
I have the tremendous and quite like the ball motion but that thing lane shines in a hurry when sanded from my experience. I often see a rather drastic change in ball reaction 4-5 frames in when it is freshly sanded so I haven't been able to properly use it how I envisioned it.MegaMav wrote:Consider:
Tremendous: 40 x 3.5 x 55 for a nice smooth look.
I really liked the Guru master for a nice smooth look when I was throwing 16 but after I dropped in weight again the Daredevil trick has been awesome in controlling the pocket.