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First ball out on freshly oiled house shot

Posted: May 24th, 2018, 5:56 pm
by todvan
My low game in both leagues this year was the first game. So I am looking to improve my first game ball reaction. On the left side with fresh oil, it plays sort of sport pattern like with not much miss room. The ball that works later in the 2nd game and 3rd is a bit too skid flip in the first game.

Are there some general rules of thumb for a controlled ball for the first game? My ForzaGT with a large Val angle (70) was controllable, but maybe not fully transitioning? Do I want high flare for fresh oil? Do I want lower RG to read the lane sooner? Just trying to learn any General ball principles for this situation in order to make a good choice for the next ball. Thanks!

Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot

Posted: May 24th, 2018, 9:44 pm
by soupy1957
todvan wrote:My low game in both leagues this year was the first game. So I am looking to improve my first game ball reaction. On the left side with fresh oil, it plays sort of sport pattern like with not much miss room. The ball that works later in the 2nd game and 3rd is a bit too skid flip in the first game.

Are there some general rules of thumb for a controlled ball for the first game? My ForzaGT with a large Val angle (70) was controllable, but maybe not fully transitioning? Do I want high flare for fresh oil? Do I want lower RG to read the lane sooner? Just trying to learn any General ball principles for this situation in order to make a good choice for the next ball. Thanks!
It takes me three games to get anywhere near my normal score!

Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot

Posted: May 25th, 2018, 1:56 am
by 44boyd
todvan wrote:My low game in both leagues this year was the first game. So I am looking to improve my first game ball reaction. On the left side with fresh oil, it plays sort of sport pattern like with not much miss room. The ball that works later in the 2nd game and 3rd is a bit too skid flip in the first game.

Are there some general rules of thumb for a controlled ball for the first game? My ForzaGT with a large Val angle (70) was controllable, but maybe not fully transitioning? Do I want high flare for fresh oil? Do I want lower RG to read the lane sooner? Just trying to learn any General ball principles for this situation in order to make a good choice for the next ball. Thanks!
Have you tried surface? What is your strategy, down and in, small swing etc.. on the fresh?

Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot

Posted: May 26th, 2018, 6:50 pm
by todvan
I guess I am leaning towards a bit stronger ball with a bit lower Val angle...pin in ring finer instead of below...unless there are any other ideas?

Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot

Posted: May 26th, 2018, 11:41 pm
by 44boyd
Well since you don’t want to have a discussion on your game, I would advise a Strong Asymmetrical like a More Cash with a 70x3x30 to guarantee it comes in.

Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot

Posted: May 27th, 2018, 12:20 am
by EricHartwell
todvan wrote:I guess I am leaning towards a bit stronger ball with a bit lower Val angle...pin in ring finer instead of below...unless there are any other ideas?
I am a fan of control drillings with dull surfaces for a first ball out of the bag. Remember fresh lane conditions also have fresh backends. No need for a ball to accentuate a strong backend reaction when the lanes are already giving it to you. This is right in line with your thinking with the larger VAL angle.

Re: First ball out on freshly oiled house shot

Posted: May 27th, 2018, 12:43 am
by todvan
Thank you Eric, you are very helpful.