Ball layout help please

Which layout is right for me?

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Ball layout help please

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Hello bowling chat

I have a teammate that need helps with the layout, bowl on both THS and sport patterns

Specs:
1 hand, rightie
PAP 3 7/8" over 1 1/2" up (not so sure but his track is 4-5" away from fingers)
Release 17mph 400rpm
AR 40* AT 17*

Can you experts give advises please? Thanks a lot
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Re: Ball layout help please

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How is the speed measured?
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PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
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Post by 2HBowler »

Hi Erik

18 frame on camera (30fps) through 15 feet, he seems very rev dominant
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2HBowler wrote:Hello bowling chat

I have a teammate that need helps with the layout, bowl on both THS and sport patterns

Specs:
1 hand, rightie
PAP 3 7/8" over 1 1/2" up (not so sure but his track is 4-5" away from fingers)
Release 17mph 400rpm
AR 40* AT 17*

Can you experts give advises please? Thanks a lot
Benchmark 105* totals, 1.6:1 Ratio

Basic Asymmetrical arsenal
Totally Strong ................. 60-4.5-25
Midlane ......................... 45-4.5-40
Benchmark ................... 65-4-40
Long and Strong ............ 85-4-40
Control ......................... 65-4-60 pin in the middle finger
low flare ....................... 85-2.25-40

Basic Symmetrical arsenal (drilling angle to Cg)
Totally Strong ................. 60-3.5-20
Midlane ......................... 55-4-30 balance hole 1" below midline on the VAL
Benchmark ................... 60-4-35
Long and Strong ............ 70-4-35 Motion Hole
Control ......................... 70-4.25-60 pin in middle finger
low flare ....................... 60-5-40
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PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
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Thank you very much Erik

I have drafted 2 layout on assym, benchmark and long&strong, both have CG on the left of the center line, have tried to upload the pix but could not as the size limited.

Can you please let me know if adjustment needed?
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2HBowler wrote:Thank you very much Erik

I have drafted 2 layout on assym, benchmark and long&strong, both have CG on the left of the center line, have tried to upload the pix but could not as the size limited.

Can you please let me know if adjustment needed?
Check your measurements on the Benchmark. Are you working with a ball that the Cg is left of the Pin to PSA line? See attachment...

As far as the Long and Strong the Cg is quite left of the centerline. It could be doable if you have low top weight and drilling the middle finger deep or if the Cg is right of the Pin to PSA line.
Otherwise I would suggest a Symmetrical with a Motion Hole for the long and Strong.
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Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
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Joined: August 3rd, 2017, 4:47 am
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Heavy Oil Ball: Physix
Medium Oil Ball: Hyroad Pearl
Light Oil Ball: Thrill
Preferred Company: Storm
Location: Asia

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Post by 2HBowler »

Hi Erik

As I only have an assym ball here so I drafted on it. And yes the CG is on left of PIN-PSA line.

I will check later with symm ball.

Thank you very much!
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