Ball help and arsenal layout
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Ball help and arsenal layout
Ok everyone i am looking for my basic assym and sym layout arsenal also i currently have a Brunswick Magnitude 035 solid i do not know the angles but it is pin below bridge with cg kicked out 30° and a p3 hole i am also looking for a ball up and a ball down from this ball
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PAP: 4 3/ right 1/4 up
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Axis Tilt: 13-17°
PAP: 4 3/ right 1/4 up
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Re: Ball help and arsenal layout
Ball up: Tremendous Solid 50 x 4.5 x 40Jmcarriere wrote:Ok everyone i am looking for my basic assym and sym layout arsenal also i currently have a Brunswick Magnitude 035 solid i do not know the angles but it is pin below bridge with cg kicked out 30° and a p3 hole i am also looking for a ball up and a ball down from this ball
Ball down: Cyclops Pearl 60 x 4 x 55 (could be pin in RF)
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Re: Ball help and arsenal layout
Asymmetrical Benchmark 90* totals, 1.25:1 Ratio 50-4.25-40Jmcarriere wrote:Ok everyone i am looking for my basic assym and sym layout arsenal also i currently have a Brunswick Magnitude 035 solid i do not know the angles but it is pin below bridge with cg kicked out 30° and a p3 hole i am also looking for a ball up and a ball down from this ball
Basic Asymmetrical arsenal
Totally Strong ................. 45-4.5-25
Midlane ......................... 30-4.5-40
Benchmark ................... 50-4.25-40
Long and Strong ............ 70-4.25-40
Control ......................... 50-4-60
low flare ....................... 70-2.25-40
Basic Symmetrical arsenal (drilling angle to Cg)
Totally Strong ................. Double Thumb layout
Midlane ......................... 55-3.5-35 balance hole 1.5" below midline on the VAL
Benchmark ................... 60-4-35 P3
Long and Strong ............ 90-4-35 Motion Hole
Control ......................... 60-4.25-55 pin in ring finger, option for bal hole 2" below midline on the VAL
low flare ....................... 70-5-35
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Re: Ball help and arsenal layout
Eric i dont know if this will make a difference at all but i have an inverted track so my track is farther away from my thumb then it is from my fingersEricHartwell wrote: Asymmetrical Benchmark 90* totals, 1.25:1 Ratio 50-4.25-40
Basic Asymmetrical arsenal
Totally Strong ................. 45-4.5-25
Midlane ......................... 30-4.5-40
Benchmark ................... 50-4.25-40
Long and Strong ............ 70-4.25-40
Control ......................... 50-4-60
low flare ....................... 70-2.25-40
Basic Symmetrical arsenal (drilling angle to Cg)
Totally Strong ................. Double Thumb layout
Midlane ......................... 55-3.5-35 balance hole 1.5" below midline on the VAL
Benchmark ................... 60-4-35 P3
Long and Strong ............ 90-4-35 Motion Hole
Control ......................... 60-4.25-55 pin in ring finger, option for bal hole 2" below midline on the VAL
low flare ....................... 70-5-35
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Axis Tilt: 13-17°
PAP: 4 3/ right 1/4 up
RPM: 345
Speed: 16 on monitor
Axis Rotation: 68*
Axis Tilt: 13-17°
PAP: 4 3/ right 1/4 up
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Re: Ball help and arsenal layout
It does not matter. The layouts are based on your Tilt, Rotation Speed and Revs.
What is your PAP measurement? It is listed as 4 3/ right 1/4 up. 4 and 3/ what?
What is your PAP measurement? It is listed as 4 3/ right 1/4 up. 4 and 3/ what?
Eric Hartwell
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PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
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Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
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330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
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Re: Ball help and arsenal layout
Sorry eric it is 4 3/4> 1/4^EricHartwell wrote:It does not matter. The layouts are based on your Tilt, Rotation Speed and Revs.
What is your PAP measurement? It is listed as 4 3/ right 1/4 up. 4 and 3/ what?
Right Handed
RPM: 345
Speed: 16 on monitor
Axis Rotation: 68*
Axis Tilt: 13-17°
PAP: 4 3/ right 1/4 up
RPM: 345
Speed: 16 on monitor
Axis Rotation: 68*
Axis Tilt: 13-17°
PAP: 4 3/ right 1/4 up
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Re: Ball help and arsenal layout
That is what I figured. Wanted confirmation for the Control layout, pin in the ring finger. Depending on your span you may have to adjust it to drill the pin out completely should you choose to utilize that layout or MegaMav's suggestion for the Cyclops.
It just appears that your track is "inverted" because the finger hole is left of the centerline. If you had a Down co-ordinate, then your track would actually be "inverted" as compared to the grip centerline.
It just appears that your track is "inverted" because the finger hole is left of the centerline. If you had a Down co-ordinate, then your track would actually be "inverted" as compared to the grip centerline.
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PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
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Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
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16 mph off hand
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Re: Ball help and arsenal layout
That's right. If the up/down part of your PAP location is negative (down) your track is inverted, if it's positive (up) it's not inverted. The proper comparison is the distance from the grip centerline instead of from the holes. -- JohnPIt just appears that your track is "inverted" because the finger hole is left of the centerline. If you had a Down co-ordinate, then your track would actually be "inverted" as compared to the grip centerline.
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Re: Ball help and arsenal layout
Eric i had a Tremendous pearl drilled at a 60x4.5x40 and what i see from it game one is coming off the spot hard and to much angle into the pocket what ball from radical amd drill would be good for game 1 but come off the spot a little softerEricHartwell wrote:That is what I figured. Wanted confirmation for the Control layout, pin in the ring finger. Depending on your span you may have to adjust it to drill the pin out completely should you choose to utilize that layout or MegaMav's suggestion for the Cyclops.
It just appears that your track is "inverted" because the finger hole is left of the centerline. If you had a Down co-ordinate, then your track would actually be "inverted" as compared to the grip centerline.
Right Handed
RPM: 345
Speed: 16 on monitor
Axis Rotation: 68*
Axis Tilt: 13-17°
PAP: 4 3/ right 1/4 up
RPM: 345
Speed: 16 on monitor
Axis Rotation: 68*
Axis Tilt: 13-17°
PAP: 4 3/ right 1/4 up
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Re: Ball help and arsenal layout
Tremendous solid 50-4.25-40
Eric Hartwell
Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand
Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand