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 Post subject: Pin to Pap Distances and Ball Reaction
 Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:42 pm Post Number: #1 Post
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Perhaps I’ve missed the part where this is covered, if I have please forgive me.

In the reading I’ve seen the areas discussing PIN to PAP distances for Asym and Sym for High Tilt and Low Tilt but nothing for Normal.

For Asym Low Tilt 2 1/4” to 4” change ball direction and read friction, 4-5” play straighter - Mo’ Reads

Asym - Most Flare at PIN to PAP 2.75 to 25, 4.5 More Angular, 4.75 Sooner forward roll

Where can I get additional information? I have addition info for High Tilt players, looking for Nor,al Tilt players - between 13* - 17*

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 Post subject: Re: Pin to Pap Distances and Ball Reaction
 Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:46 pm Post Number: #2 Post
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Jmc1972 wrote:
Perhaps I’ve missed the part where this is covered, if I have please forgive me.

In the reading I’ve seen the areas discussing PIN to PAP distances for Asym and Sym for High Tilt and Low Tilt but nothing for Normal.

For Asym Low Tilt 2 1/4” to 4” change ball direction and read friction, 4-5” play straighter - Mo’ Reads

Asym - Most Flare at PIN to PAP 2.75 to 25, 4.5 More Angular, 4.75 Sooner forward roll

Where can I get additional information? I have addition info for High Tilt players, looking for Nor,al Tilt players - between 13* - 17*

Thanks!

Sorry your post went unanswered for so long. Somehow I missed it.

For the "normal" bowler with medium tilt the calculations for the Benchmark start at 4" pin to PAP.
They are able to most effectively utilize the widest range of Pin to PAP's 2.25 to 5" on Asymmetrical equip. You have already described how the different pin distances affect the ball roll.
When I figure the Basic arsenal for a medium tilt medium rotation Matched bowler the pin recommendations will all be close to 4". Pin distances larger and smaller will further separate the ball motions. I would recommend them when working with a larger set or when a bowler request a ball motion that is more to the extreme from a Benchmark type reaction. Another time to utilize the far ends of the range is to make a ball react in a way that it was Not designed. For example a high differential early hooking ball and applying a low flare layout to it and using a 2.25" pin to PAP. Another example is the Sport layouts using the 5" pin to PAP to get the ball to roll as soon as possible.
I hope this helps.

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