Ball and layout advice for extreme wet/dry

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Re: Ball and layout advice for extreme wet/dry

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elgavachon wrote:You guys saw the hypothetical bowler had different specs than Wpzone? I was hoping to have speed/rev matched. I thought Wpzsone was rev dominant. That is why I lowered the revs for the generic benchmark. I was confirming (to myself) the 1.75:1 in post #5 and I was after one less variable.
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Ah, I missed that.

The hypothetical specs that elgavachon was asking about are:
5* tilt
55* rotation
18.5 hand
375 revs

My specs that I was looking for firm baseline numbers are:
5* tilt
55* rotation
18.5 hand
400 revs
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It still answers my question. Would you still want the 3 1/4 pin for symmetrical Mo?
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elgavachon wrote:It still answers my question. Would you still want the 3 1/4 pin for symmetrical Mo?
Let's start with that.
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wpzone wrote:Ah, I missed that.

The hypothetical specs that elgavachon was asking about are:
5* tilt
55* rotation
18.5 hand
375 revs

My specs that I was looking for firm baseline numbers are:
5* tilt
55* rotation
18.5 hand
400 revs

Those specs. are as close as two people can get.
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One last question. From what I gather in this post (and a couple others) are these the correct baseline numbers for my specs?

•Angles: 95* + - 20*
•Ratio’s: 2.25 - 1.25:1 (1.75:1 benchmark)
•Asym pins: 1 3/4" - 3 1/4"
•Sym pins: 3 1/2" - 5 1/2"


•Hand – Right
•Speed - 16.5mph on monitor
•Rev Rate – 400
•Initial Axis Rotation - 55*
•Initial Axis Tilt - 5*
•Surface – synthetic
•Pattern - extreme wet/dry, 38ft
•PAP - 5 3/4> 3/4^
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wpzone wrote:One last question. From what I gather in this post (and a couple others) are these the correct baseline numbers for my specs?

•Angles: 95* + - 20*
•Ratio’s: 2.25 - 1.25:1 (1.75:1 benchmark)
•Asym pins: 1 3/4" - 3 1/4"
•Sym pins: 3 1/2" - 5 1/2"


•Hand – Right
•Speed - 16.5mph on monitor
•Rev Rate – 400
•Initial Axis Rotation - 55*
•Initial Axis Tilt - 5*
•Surface – synthetic
•Pattern - extreme wet/dry, 38ft
•PAP - 5 3/4> 3/4^
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Re: Ball and layout advice for extreme wet/dry

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Excellent, thanks again!
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Re: Ball and layout advice for extreme wet/dry

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Update:
I redrilled the following:
Jacked - 80x4.5x55 P2
Pure Swing - 75x2.25x60 P2
Backlash - 45x4x35 P2

The Jacked has been too strong on the patterns Ive used it on so far but Im going to change the surface this week so I can play with it.

Pure Swing - Threw it the same I drilled it on the USBC Blue and shot 740ish. Read the midlane great and very predictable on the back. First night on the wet/dry pattern I shoot 250, 260, then loose carry in the 3rd game as I started moving deeper. Changed to the Backlash in the 4th frame moving back to the original line I started the Pure Swing with. Go wrap 10, then solid 9, 4 bagger and fill the 10th for 220ish.

Overall I am very happy with the layouts as these are reactions I have not previously seen in any of my equipment. They are proving to be very forgiving on balls that I couldnt really use before. I have two more I am plugging right now, Mutant 55x3.5x25 P3 and a HyRoad 75x4.5x25 P1. I am looking forward to trying these out and probably several more in the near future.

Thanks everyone.
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