Layout Advice needed

Which layout is right for me?

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DanH
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Joined: July 17th, 2017, 12:35 am
THS Average: 208
Sport Average: 181
Positive Axis Point: 4 5/8 > 1/8^
Speed: 17.2mph off hand
Rev Rate: 292
Axis Tilt: 21
Axis Rotation: 50
Heavy Oil Ball: Brunswick Prism Hybrid (3k surface)
Medium Oil Ball: phase III
Light Oil Ball: onyx vibe

Layout Advice needed

Post by DanH » August 11th, 2020, 12:09 am

I went to Kegel and got some new Specto data

RR 292
Speed off hand 17 Mph
Tilt 21
Axis Rotation 50

At 69 I was stunned by my Rev Rate. Its actually a bit higher since I had thumb issues that day but when I got out clean it was around 340. I hung up bad the first few shots then Del took me back and opened up my thumb.
I would rather be speed dominant anyway these days but I never was.

I bowl in a house with a 42 ft 25unts THS. 18 year Old Anvil lane.

The best ball I had in recent years was a Motiv Octane Carbon, 4 1/2 x 70. maintained at 3k surface.
I used a Onyx Vibe for a while, no big scores but very consistent. 5 1/4 x 35.
I have a Brunswick Prism Hybrid drilled 90x 1 1/12 x 50 that works sometimes but not consistently. I have tried a lot of surface changes and just like most of my other balls 3k works best.

Please advise this old man on layouts and surface changes that might work better for me.

Thanks!
Nobody knows everything, Always learning.

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EricHartwell
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Positive Axis Point: 4-3/4" and 1/2"up
Speed: 16 off hand
Rev Rate: 330
Axis Tilt: 12
Axis Rotation: 45
Heavy Oil Ball: Radical Tremendous
Medium Oil Ball: Motiv Villain, Hammer Nail, Brunswick True Motion
Light Oil Ball: Blue Hammer, Columbia Nitrous
Location: Michigan

Re: Layout Advice needed

Post by EricHartwell » August 11th, 2020, 3:38 am

I always start with figuring the benchmark and then work from there

Benchmark 1.25:1 Ratio, 100* Totals

Asymmetrical Layouts
Totally Strong ................. 50-4.5-30
Midlane ........................ 35-4.5-45
Benchmark .................... 55-4-45
Long and Strong .............. 75-4-45
Control ........................ 55-3.5-65
low flare ...................... 75-2.5-45

Symmetrical layouts
Benchmark ................... xx-4-40
Control ....................... xx-4.5-60 adjust to pin in the ring finger
low flare ..................... xx-5-35
Eric Hartwell

Right Handed
PAP 4.75" up 1/2"
45* rotation
12* tilt
330 rev rate
16 mph off hand

DanH
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Posts: 2
Joined: July 17th, 2017, 12:35 am
THS Average: 208
Sport Average: 181
Positive Axis Point: 4 5/8 > 1/8^
Speed: 17.2mph off hand
Rev Rate: 292
Axis Tilt: 21
Axis Rotation: 50
Heavy Oil Ball: Brunswick Prism Hybrid (3k surface)
Medium Oil Ball: phase III
Light Oil Ball: onyx vibe

Re: Layout Advice needed

Post by DanH » August 11th, 2020, 7:42 pm

Eric I cant thank you enough.

I was close on a few, looks like spot on with the control layout on the symmetrical since I have to go an inch below the ring finger and end up at 70 degree val. its my best layout .
Nobody knows everything, Always learning.

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THS Average: 208
Sport Average: 182
Positive Axis Point: 4 11/16 >
Speed: 17.2 off hand per specto
Rev Rate: 292
Axis Tilt: 21
Axis Rotation: 50
Heavy Oil Ball: Storm Parallax
Medium Oil Ball: Storm IQ Nano Pearl
Light Oil Ball: Looking
Preferred Company: Storm/Roto

Re: Layout Advice needed

Post by TampaSR » October 12th, 2020, 12:34 am

Just want to thank Eric again. The layout are working well.

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