We took a urethane ball and added particles to the coverstock?
Ive always thought that combination would lead to a ball that you could use very effectively on a house shot.
Even rolling piece, maybe 2 piece weight block with particle coverstock to give it a little bite on the lane, less allergic to oil.
Thoughts?
What would happen if...
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Re: What would happen if...
Interesting thought it but you have to remember that the addition of some particles add to oil absorption of the bowling ball. Oil absorption, or lack there of is exactly what makes urethane coverstocks so even.MegaMav wrote:We took a urethane ball and added particles to the coverstock?
Ive always thought that combination would lead to a ball that you could use very effectively on a house shot.
Even rolling piece, maybe 2 piece weight block with particle coverstock to give it a little bite on the lane, less allergic to oil.
Thoughts?
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Re: What would happen if...
Paul,purduepaul wrote: Interesting thought it but you have to remember that the addition of some particles add to oil absorption of the bowling ball. Oil absorption, or lack there of is exactly what makes urethane coverstocks so even.
But what is it about the addition of particles to a resin base that makes it, causes it to absorb oil faster? I can't say it doesn't make sense, because I'm not a resin chemist.
Adding mica to make a ball "pearlized" certainly does not seem to make a ball absorb oil faster, yet we consider mica to be particles. (Storm has used larger pieces of mica to act as particles not as pearlization: 2nd Dimension is the most recent example.)
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Re: What would happen if...
Its in the rheology or makeup of the particle. Again not ALL particles are created equal. Please see the particle article I wrote on the wiki. While some have a negative influence on surface roughness, some have a positive influence on surface roughness. Generally speaking the ones that influence surface roughness lower tend to add oil absorption and generally even out the ball reaction causing a sooner, arcy ball reaction.
Paul,
But what is it about the addition of particles to a resin base that makes it, causes it to absorb oil faster? I can't say it doesn't make sense, because I'm not a resin chemist.
Adding mica to make a ball "pearlized" certainly does not seem to make a ball absorb oil faster, yet we consider mica to be particles. (Storm has used larger pieces of mica to act as particles not as pearlization: 2nd Dimension is the most recent example.)
Thanks.
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Re: What would happen if...
Paul, I have added that article you are referencing:
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index. ... OfParticle
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index. ... OfParticle