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Resurfacing older balls

Post by ManofSteel »

I have a Brunswick Bvp Sidewinder which is a "Solid/Pearl Hybrid - Low Load Particle coverstock" and the factory finish is 220 with rough buff.

My question is, given the above and that generally there is more oil about than when the ball was manufactured, must I stick to small ish variations of the factory finish or can I go nuts and try anything thing I like?

I find its a usefull ball when lane conditions get "sloppy".

Thanks in advance

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Re: Resurfacing older balls

Post by stevespo »

Go nuts! It's fun to experiment.

Anything you might try (within reason) is easily reversed and you can always bring it back to factory. This is easier with a spinner, but can also be done by hand.

Given the nearly endless variations and techniques, it might be helpful to use the factory as a starting point - but maybe you have a favorite surface on another ball that you think might work. I'd say go for it.

If you're duplicating a Storm (or brand X) just make sure they're using the same grit scale as you are. Some of the finishes specify ISO/FEPA (P scale = Abralon, Siaair, etc) and others use CAMI automotive wet/dry. Storm 1500+polish uses CAMI, or roughly P4000 - which had me confused for a while. 220 is 220 for both scales, so no issues there.

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That is a great ball and took surface changes very well. That ball has a great blend of particle and pearl.
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Re: Resurfacing older balls

Post by ManofSteel »

Thanks Stevespo.

"Some of the finishes specify ISO/FEPA (P scale = Abralon, Siaair, etc) and others use CAMI automotive wet/dry. Storm 1500+polish uses CAMI, or roughly P4000 - which had me confused for a while. 220 is 220 for both scales, so no issues there."

This is priceless, I have just reread Storm's 2012 resurfacing guide. It makes no mention of the grit scale used. I have been using P scale for all my equiptment. No wonder all my storm equipment reads early. Now to find a comparison scale.

Thanks again

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Re: Resurfacing older balls

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I got the info from the helpful folks here -

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There is a grit pad conversation chart in the wiki.
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stevespo wrote:If you're duplicating a Storm (or brand X) just make sure they're using the same grit scale as you are. Some of the finishes specify ISO/FEPA (P scale = Abralon, Siaair, etc) and others use CAMI automotive wet/dry. Storm 1500+polish uses CAMI, or roughly P4000 - which had me confused for a while. 220 is 220 for both scales, so no issues there.

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This is good info. Thanks. I am surprised to read that Storm's polish is not on the P scale. I always thought it was. In fact, in this day and age of Abralon and similar type of pads, I wonder why anyone in the bowling industry would put a product out there based on CAMI. That's just me.
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Post by Qman »

Older equipment or any equipment can only be resurfaced so much to get the max use out of them. 2 to 3 years is the max for league players with new equipment. I talked to Matt McNeil last summer and he said most new balls maximum output is after 40 games and after that they are nothing better than house balls or league balls. To bad the league bowler doesn't have the financial advantage the pro players have.
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