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Author:  JohnP [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Mo Says

From: viewtopic.php?t=4750

Quote:
You've got it right. On asyms., use pin to PAP distances of 2 3/4" to 4" to get the ball to change direction and read friction. Use 4" to 5" pin to PAP distances when you want to play straighter.


This response has inspired me to start a "Mo Says" page in Word. As I find other helpful hints I'll add them to the page and keep it for reference. If anyone has similar quotes please either post them here or provide the link and I'll add them to my page. If requested I'll try to figure out how to add a page to the wiki for others to use. -- JohnP

Author:  jpj6780 [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

Great idea. You might include a reference as well, such as: in response to question regarding pap to pin for low tilt, high rotation, 400 rpm, 18mph bowler.

Author:  Mo Pinel [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

JohnP wrote:
Quote:
You've got it right. On asyms., use pin to PAP distances of 2 3/4" to 4" to get the ball to change direction and read friction. Use 4" to 5" pin to PAP distances when you want to play straighter.


This response has inspired me to start a "Mo Says" page in Word. As I find other helpful hints I'll add them to the page and keep it for reference. If anyone has similar quotes please either post them here or provide the link and I'll add them to my page. If requested I'll try to figure out how to add a page to the wiki for others to use. -- JohnP


That quote was for low tilt bowlers. For high tilt bowlers, don't use 3" to 4" pin to PAPs on asyms. unless there's lots of friction, or you're using a ton of surface with a big, strong balance hole. Use 4" to 5" pin to PAPs to read friction and 5" to 6" pin to PAPs to play straight. Another example of the need for accurate delivery specs.

Author:  JohnP [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

Modified the first quote and added the second. -- JohnP

Author:  House Dressing [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:38 pm ]
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Re: Mo Says:
Hide the F'n polish........ :lol:

Author:  EricHartwell [ Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

Hand grenades at 20 paces

Author:  JohnP [ Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:35 pm ]
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I'm really looking for succinct technical information instead of "Moisms". -- JohnP

Author:  CrankyOldMan [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:41 am ]
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What do we have here? A "local legend in his own mind" perhaps?

:lol:

Author:  ijohn83 [ Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:11 am ]
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BOWLING WELL IS RELATED TO EFFICIENCY, NOT EXERTION!

Author:  juice [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

Mo says: "There's no IQ test in bowling"

Author:  preoakes [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:40 pm ]
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JohnP wrote:
I'm really looking for succinct technical information instead of "Moisms". -- JohnP

Ok, but you might want to start an extra one with the Mo-isms!

Author:  elgavachon [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

This quote taken from viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4557&p=36474#p36474 (see # 19)
ALL bowling balls with migrate along the RG contour of the Bowler's PAP. That's governed by the laws of the universe. Therefore, in order to create a unique migration path, you must create a unique RG contour for that ball. ALL balls have RG contours that use the low and high RG axis as the centroid for the RG contours. The higher the differential ratio, the more of the RG contours that are centered around the high RG axis, and the flatter those ellipses. That's just pure science and math.

Author:  IShot811 [ Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

We need more like this...

Mo Pinel wrote:
When the fingers are over 3" deep, don't go any deeper than 2 3/4" on the balance hole! The holes will meet, if you drill the balance hole too deep.

Author:  JohnP [ Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY! -- JohnP

Author:  ijohn83 [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:34 pm ]
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Mo Pinel wrote:

Staying behind the ball causes it to track high. Specifically, lack of axis tilt. Staying in the thumb too long causes it to track very close to the thumb. That's the real skinny.

Author:  IShot811 [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

Mo Pinel wrote:
Don't worry about the cg. No problem. CGs don't mean a thing (to) ball motion as long as the ball has legal statics. .... NEVER put balance holes below the thumb. Too much of a chance of flaring over it.

Author:  JohnP [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

With Scotch Brite pads, it's all about the pressure you use with the pad. Burgundy results in 400 to 800 depending on the pressure. Grey results in 800 to 1500, again, depending on the pressure used.
Using scuff pads is not an exact science, but this is usually done during practice when the ball you want to use is not reacting enough. After the bowling is done, I always recommend using a spinner to return the ball to its' normal surface.

Author:  JohnP [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

From: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4735

On a symmetrical ball drilled without a balance hole, the PSA (high RG) axis ends up very near the thumb. That puts the PAP near the intermediate RG axis on a vast majority of bowlers. Putting a balance hole in the PAP, which is near the int. RG axis, raises the RG of the int. RG axis. That decreases the int. diff., which makes the ball more symmetrical. That's what blueprint's excellent attachment shows. This explanation is for those who have math phobia.

Author:  JohnP [ Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

From: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4747

Increasing the reverse in the middle finger actually helped to lower your tilt. Changing pitches changes the resulting ball motion. If you have to change the grip to accomodate issues like this, CHANGE THE SPAN FIRST TO RELIEVE THE PRESSURE, NOT THE PITCH, UNLESS YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE ROLL!

Author:  BCP27 [ Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mo Says

JohnP wrote:
With Scotch Brite pads, it's all about the pressure you use with the pad. Burgundy results in 400 to 800 depending on the pressure. Grey results in 800 to 1500, again, depending on the pressure used.
Using scuff pads is not an exact science, but this is usually done during practice when the ball you want to use is not reacting enough. After the bowling is done, I always recommend using a spinner to return the ball to its' normal surface.


Green Pads are for dishes!

I wish I read that before using a green pad several times on my 2furious....oh well it worked pretty well for me. It got my pin down 2furious reading early enough for the smooth arc to bounce off the dry when my Tropical Storm over-skidded....which is usually the case on fresh oil.

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