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Re: Pin to PAP distances

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rocketman1964 wrote:
Thanks MegaMav, really appreciate your help.
My pleasure, I added an additional note to adjust VAL to 40 if need be, you probably will with your PAP and the short pin.
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Re: Pin to PAP distances

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MegaMav wrote:
My pleasure, I added an additional note to adjust VAL to 40 if need be, you probably will with your PAP and the short pin.
Just for my understanding, is the change in VAL due to my specs, or for the static imbalance of the ball, or both? You said if need be, and I just want to be clear as to what that means. My initial thoughts is it is for static imbalance only, that I would determine, after laying it out and weighing before drilling, if I would need to go to 40. Still new to this drilling stuff. Thanks.
Rob

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Re: Pin to PAP distances

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Both. With the layout and your PAP the CG may end up too high to drill the fingers deep enough to have room for a balance hole which is part of Asym F. 40 will cheat it around 1/2".
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Re: Pin to PAP distances

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MegaMav wrote:Cyclops: 80 x 5.5 x 45
Fix: Asym F - drill the fingers 3.5" deep, adjust VAL to 40.
Megamav,

Getting ready to drill these balls and I have one question, your recommendation for the Cyclops, is that with a MoTion hole like Eric and I were discussing? Or is it intended with no balance hole at all? Thanks.
Rob

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PAP 5 1/4 over 3/4 up
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Re: Pin to PAP distances

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rocketman1964 wrote:
Megamav,

Getting ready to drill these balls and I have one question, your recommendation for the Cyclops, is that with a MoTion hole like Eric and I were discussing? Or is it intended with no balance hole at all? Thanks.
Throw without a balance hole first.
Balance hole can be used to tune the reaction later.
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Re: Pin to PAP distances

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MegaMav wrote:
Throw without a balance hole first.
Balance hole can be used to tune the reaction later.
Understand, was planning on doing that. Just wasn’t sure if the layout on the Cyclops would allow for a MOtion hole. Thanks again for all your help.
Rob

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RF 4 11/16, 1/2 R, 3/8 R
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PAP 5 1/4 over 3/4 up
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House shot. Sport or PBA on rare occasion.
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