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Yeti - Question about core shape

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From core shape determines motion:

Drilled Differentials

Drilled to miss the core slice:
.044/.008
Drilled to hit the core slice:
.062/.018

With that large of a difference between the 2 layouts, does the ball burn off tilt and rotation differently between the more symmetric layout and the more asymmetric layout?
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MegaMav wrote:From core shape determines motion:

Drilled Differentials

Drilled to miss the core slice:
.044/.008
Drilled to hit the core slice:
.062/.018

With that large of a difference between the 2 layouts, does the ball burn off tilt and rotation differently between the more symmetric layout and the more asymmetric layout?
Absolutely, the numbers show that!
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Not sure if I worded that as best as I could.
This is a little more clear:

Does the more symmetrical layout burn tilt and rotation like a typical symmetrical ball, regarding shorter and longer Pin to PAP distances?
Same thing for the more asymmetrical layout, does it burn tilt the same way with shorter and longer Pin to PAP distances like a typical asymmetric?

REF: Flare chart in the wiki.
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I'm interested to hear what the creator has to say about this. :)

I drilled my Yeti pin above bridge ~(55° x 5 x 40°). When the lanes have decent volume, it's amazing. I'll be putting together a video review showing more than 15 strikes from the first 2 games I threw with it. Watch for me giggling like a kid as I turn around, muttering things like "Wow!" and "This is silly!" :)

The ball revs really fast off my hand (high rev rate normally) but has the rolliest (is that a word?) shape I've seen from a non-particle cover, so clearly there's some pretty major precession in play to smooth it out so effectively. The impact is plain nasty though! A genuine surprise from the lane shape I had. On a ton of friction, it struggled until I moved in past 30 board with my feet and slow circled the side to side wet/dry of blocked HPL. Then it was a winner again.

It's a triumph, Mr Pinel and I tip my hat to you. Can't wait for a polished solid version. It'll be a killer power player's ball. I get time to shoe up this week and the Yeti and Reax will be the second two things on the rack. (After my spare ball.)

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jasondoust wrote:I'm interested to hear what the creator has to say about this. :)

I drilled my Yeti pin above bridge ~(55° x 5 x 40°). When the lanes have decent volume, it's amazing. I'll be putting together a video review showing more than 15 strikes from the first 2 games I threw with it. Watch for me giggling like a kid as I turn around, muttering things like "Wow!" and "This is silly!" :)

The ball revs really fast off my hand (high rev rate normally) but has the rolliest (is that a word?) shape I've seen from a non-particle cover, so clearly there's some pretty major precession in play to smooth it out so effectively. The impact is plain nasty though! A genuine surprise from the lane shape I had. On a ton of friction, it struggled until I moved in past 30 board with my feet and slow circled the side to side wet/dry of blocked HPL. Then it was a winner again.

It's a triumph, Mr Pinel and I tip my hat to you. Can't wait for a polished solid version. It'll be a killer power player's ball. I get time to shoe up this week and the Yeti and Reax will be the second two things on the rack. (After my spare ball.)

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Thanks for the compliments, but you ain't seen nothing yet. The Yeti core design masquerades as a symmetrical ball until you start playing with balance holes. It's symmetrical because no matter where you put the cg (before using a balance hole), the drilled ball spins in the area of the thumb. The PSA is around the thumb hole. That is the true definition of a symmetrical ball. By the proper use of balance holes, you can move the PSA to where you would like it and you'll get drilled intermediate and total diffs. of asymmetrical balls. So, it can be either symmetrical, or asymmetrical, as you prefer. Just follow the drilling suggestions for symmetrical balls from RADICAL. They're in the box and in the Wiki. The most versatile ball ever. The cover on the Yeti is a very smooth rolling cover. The Yeti core is a camouflaged monster.

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The most versatile ball ever. The cover on the Yeti is a very smooth rolling cover. The Yeti core is a camouflaged monster.

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A hidden monster indeed, I have yet to find a condition that I cannot use this ball on except bone dry. I have the ball MOtion holed and simple surface adjustments cover just about everything. Long, intermediate or short ....NO problem. It is most surprising on volume if you put surface on it. I haven't tried it on a 50 foot pattern and it's natural length with the drilling might be an issue but we'll see. A truly exceptional ball.

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Revkiller wrote:The most versatile ball ever. The cover on the Yeti is a very smooth rolling cover. The Yeti core is a camouflaged monster.

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A hidden monster indeed, I have yet to find a condition that I cannot use this ball on except bone dry. I have the ball MOtion holed and simple surface adjustments cover just about everything. Long, intermediate or short ....NO problem. It is most surprising on volume if you put surface on it. I haven't tried it on a 50 foot pattern and it's natural length with the drilling might be an issue but we'll see. A truly exceptional ball.

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Mo Pinel wrote:
This statement above is blowing my mind!

I have a blank Reax waiting to be drilled, but now I want a Yeti, too!
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justhere4thefood wrote: This statement above is blowing my mind!

I have a blank Reax waiting to be drilled, but now I want a Yeti, too!
They are both excellent balls, but different. The ReaX is a milder form of Offset Core Technology with a great, very aggressive cover. The Yeti is a more advanced form of Offset Technology with a mild cover. They compliment each other. Why don't you drill both?
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Mo Pinel wrote: Why don't you drill both?
That's what I did! Makes a great 1-2 punch. Reax with the sharper breakpoint layout surfaced to 1000, Yeti with a Pin over MOtion hole at 3000. I shot my highest series ever last week with the Reax. Part of that could be contributed to Mo's "See It, Feel It, Do It" book also though. You got a couple of great balls there Mo, and an amazing book. Thanks!
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Arkansas wrote: That's what I did! Makes a great 1-2 punch. Reax with the sharper breakpoint layout surfaced to 1000, Yeti with a Pin over MOtion hole at 3000. I shot my highest series ever last week with the Reax. Part of that could be contributed to Mo's "See It, Feel It, Do It" book also though. You got a couple of great balls there Mo, and an amazing book. Thanks!
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Arkansas wrote: That's what I did! Makes a great 1-2 punch. Reax with the sharper breakpoint layout surfaced to 1000, Yeti with a Pin over MOtion hole at 3000. I shot my highest series ever last week with the Reax. Part of that could be contributed to Mo's "See It, Feel It, Do It" book also though. You got a couple of great balls there Mo, and an amazing book. Thanks!
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Dustin? wrote: Add a Torrid Elite to the line up and look out! I have a Reax, Yeti with mo-hole and the Torrid with pin next to ring. Last night of league I had my best series ever using the Torrid and Yeti. Also won our end of year tourney with my Radical line up. All great equipment! Helps a ton I got a new fit from Mo in March. THANK YOU MO!!
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If "aging fat guys" can score with the Yeti ... well, that's all I need to know!!!

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