New Determinator Videos from Mo

Ask Mo Pinel and the bowling industry's best your general questions, and get straight answers.

Moderators: Mo Pinel, purduepaul, MathIsTruth, ballspinner

Forum rules
Ask Mo Pinel and the bowling industry's best your questions, and get straight answers.
This forum is moderated exclusively by Mo & Friends.
Locked
User avatar
MegaMav
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4694
Joined: April 27th, 2007, 5:00 am
THS Average: 225
Sport Average: 200
Positive Axis Point: 5.5 Over & 1 Up
Speed: 16.0 MPH - Camera
Rev Rate: 375
Axis Tilt: 14
Axis Rotation: 45
Heavy Oil Ball: Radical - Informer
Medium Oil Ball: Brunswick - Fearless
Light Oil Ball: Radical - Bonus Pearl
Preferred Company: Radical Bowling Technologies
Location: Malta, NY

New Determinator Videos from Mo

Post by MegaMav »

These were posted to Facebook, so you likely will need an account to view.

" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Enjoy.
User avatar
bowl1820
Trusted Source
Trusted Source
Posts: 1470
Joined: July 9th, 2012, 10:09 pm
Location: Central Florida

Re: New Determinator Videos from Mo

Post by bowl1820 »

Interesting series on the Determinator.

can't wait for the rest
"REMEMBER, it isn't how much the ball hooks, it's where."
TonyPR
Trusted Source
Trusted Source
Posts: 1386
Joined: December 14th, 2014, 3:08 am
Preferred Company: Radical
Location: San Juan, PR

Re: New Determinator Videos from Mo

Post by TonyPR »

More proof that the position of the CG has almost no effect in ball motion. Really enjoyed the videos, wish he would do one spinning Radical symmetrical balls drilled with only the finger holes 3.5" deep and no thumb or third hole.
Silver Level Coach
Kegel KCMP1 and KCMP2 Completed /Approved Exam
Kegel KCMP3 Completed
Kegel Certified Pro Shop Operator
Free agent
User avatar
stevespo
Member
Member
Posts: 584
Joined: August 11th, 2014, 8:07 pm
THS Average: 225
Positive Axis Point: 5.75" x + 3/8"
Speed: 17+ off hand (camera)
Rev Rate: 375
Axis Tilt: 12
Axis Rotation: 45
Heavy Oil Ball: Phaze II, Altered Reality
Medium Oil Ball: IQ Tour Nano, Zen, Phase III
Light Oil Ball: Electrify Pearl

Re: New Determinator Videos from Mo

Post by stevespo »

TonyPR wrote:More proof that the position of the CG has almost no effect in ball motion. Really enjoyed the videos, wish he would do one spinning Radical symmetrical balls drilled with only the finger holes 3.5" deep and no thumb or third hole.
We were discussing the videos the other day, and that same exact question came up. We suspected that shallow fingers (no thumb or balance) wouldn't influence the PSA location, but deep fingers might.

Steve
16 mph (14-14.5 on monitor), 375 rpm, PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8 up, AT: 12*, AR: 45*
User avatar
MathIsTruth
Industry Professional
Industry Professional
Posts: 548
Joined: January 19th, 2010, 5:18 pm
Preferred Company: MoRich/Radical
Location: Washington, WV

Re: New Determinator Videos from Mo

Post by MathIsTruth »

Great videos and glad you are combating all the fallacious information out there. In the last video, I wanted to point out to everyone that it was a coincidence for the PSA to coincide with the endpoint of the line from pin through CG... If the balance hole was smaller, the PSA would not have shifted as much as it did in the video and if the PSA was larger then the PSA would have shifted even more. Just wanted to avoid confusion for some. Great video series!!
pjape
Member
Member
Posts: 412
Joined: May 13th, 2011, 1:16 pm

Re: New Determinator Videos from Mo

Post by pjape »

MathIsTruth wrote:Great videos and glad you are combating all the fallacious information out there. In the last video, I wanted to point out to everyone that it was a coincidence for the PSA to coincide with the endpoint of the line from pin through CG... If the balance hole was smaller, the PSA would not have shifted as much as it did in the video and if the PSA was larger then the PSA would have shifted even more. Just wanted to avoid confusion for some. Great video series!!
Off topic, but nice to see you back MathIsTruth.
User avatar
fufu
Member
Member
Posts: 451
Joined: January 29th, 2010, 10:39 pm
THS Average: 230
Positive Axis Point: 5 right, 3/8 up
Speed: 16
Rev Rate: 320
Axis Tilt: 17
Axis Rotation: 55

Re: New Determinator Videos from Mo

Post by fufu »

Love these videos.... I'd like to show these to my proshop buddy....he still thinks CG matters.
http://www.rotogrip.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.facebook.com/Round-Holes-No ... 602077080/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Arkansas
BCU Graduate Layouts
BCU Graduate Layouts
Posts: 477
Joined: January 24th, 2012, 11:02 pm
Positive Axis Point: 4 1/2 Left x 3/4 Up
Speed: 18.5 off Hand
Rev Rate: 350
Axis Tilt: 17
Axis Rotation: 55
Heavy Oil Ball: Guru Mighty
Medium Oil Ball: Guru
Light Oil Ball: Torrid Affair
Preferred Company: Radical

Re: New Determinator Videos from Mo

Post by Arkansas »

MathIsTruth wrote:Great videos and glad you are combating all the fallacious information out there. In the last video, I wanted to point out to everyone that it was a coincidence for the PSA to coincide with the endpoint of the line from pin through CG... If the balance hole was smaller, the PSA would not have shifted as much as it did in the video and if the PSA was larger then the PSA would have shifted even more. Just wanted to avoid confusion for some. Great video series!!
I think you meant to say "if the balance hole was larger then the PSA would have shifted even more.
James Talley
Locked