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Fitting Method vs type of release

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Hello, anyone using the MoRich/Wiki Fit who does a yoyo style release (cup-uncup releasing with fingers down into the lane, in other words snapping the wrist). I believe I read somewhere that this type of fit lends itself more to a more "basic" release. I bowl no thumb, two handed approach so the question is not for me but I also coach in a youth league and have some kids with fit issues who are learning the yoyo release and I just wanted to know if this fitting method will lend itself to this type of release.

By the way, Mo you haven't posted on Bowling Chat in a while, I think this would be a good one for you to answer. Hope you are doing well.
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So nobody here does the yoyo release with the wiki fit?
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I've seen your post, however I am not a fitting expert, so I will refrain from commenting.
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I haven't noticed any limitations with the Wiki fitting method and any release styles. Proper shape and sized thumb hole combined with span and pitches that allow for little to no grip pressure... personally, I can go from 7° Of tilt to 20° as well as change rotation from 35° up to 70°. From cup and collapse to circling the ball.
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Thank you MilkMan, just what I needed to hear. So if the fingers end up with forward linears it doesn't matter as long as one follows the Wiki fit procedure which will result in a grip that will hold on to you and release smoothly no matter the type of release, correct?
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That's what I've seen so far. Others may see something different, but as a PSO, I haven't noticed any issues.
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Why is it that so many people are anti forward pitch in the fingers, if the span is short and by short I mean correct span/small hand, forward in the fingers is a way of holding on to the ball without sacrificing thumb timing. Do you agree?
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I honestly don't see an issue with using forward pitch on the fingers. I've used forward pitch on many hands with no issue. I had a customer, very talented bowler, tell me he uses reverse for less flexibility. Ok.... luckily he had brought a few plugged balls that were just for testing. I fit him and then compared the two. He went from 4-1/2 full in each finger to 4-1/8 full. He went from 1/8 reverse to 3/16 forward. Thumb pitches and size changed a lot too. Went from 1/4 reverse and 5/16 right to 1/16 reverse and 1/16 left. The ball is a million times cleaner at release.
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TheMilkMan wrote:I honestly don't see an issue with using forward pitch on the fingers. I've used forward pitch on many hands with no issue. I had a customer, very talented bowler, tell me he uses reverse for less flexibility. Ok.... luckily he had brought a few plugged balls that were just for testing. I fit him and then compared the two. He went from 4-1/2 full in each finger to 4-1/8 full. He went from 1/8 reverse to 3/16 forward. Thumb pitches and size changed a lot too. Went from 1/4 reverse and 5/16 right to 1/16 reverse and 1/16 left. The ball is a million times cleaner at release.
Went through the close to the same process with myself. Went from maybe 7* tilt to 15*-17* as of right now. Seems to be easier to get of of the ball with more revs also. I have used the wiki method as a base fit on many customers with great feed back and multiple have had tilt increase from that very low range to closer to medium range which has given them better ball motion.
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I went to an oval thumb last year to have a cleaner release so I wouldn't grab it at the bottom. Is this a release problem or a fit problem? I'd look at the fit first and worry about how the release is after I have a proper fit. Averaging 216 this year after moving to the oval thumb. Haven't averaged over 193 since 2 years ago. I'd say fit is more important.
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