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by Starion
August 5th, 2020, 8:13 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?
Replies: 26
Views: 7426

Re: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?

Just seeing these responses now ( didn't get the email notification for some reason ). ^Thanks Greg!! That totally clears up the engraved hand marker issue. Esp. when you noted the Baller doesn't have it. I'll not assume negatively on my first PSO, but still I'll still seek a certified PSO to get my...
by Starion
July 31st, 2020, 4:16 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Q on axis tilt
Replies: 4
Views: 1512

Re: Q on axis tilt

Further thoughts...makes sense once I got it, but visuals so far have been kinda confusing TBH. Please correct me if I'm wrong here... I've yet to see a vid explain this with a non globe/ball prop - which is hard to conceptualize without already knowing these terms. Seems to me a paper plate with a ...
by Starion
July 31st, 2020, 4:02 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Q on axis tilt
Replies: 4
Views: 1512

Re: Q on axis tilt

Found answer per JR in comments on the vid (sorry, I usually watch YT on incognito mode to not mess up my suggestions feed) "When the ball is tilted up less circumference of the ball impacts the lane. You would agree the oil rings get smaller as you move away from the center of the ball right? ...
by Starion
July 31st, 2020, 3:05 am
Forum: Coaching Discussion
Topic: Targeting
Replies: 11
Views: 8549

Re: Targeting

Eye/hand coordination can be improved over time. Hitting a target is easy for people who have good eye/hand coordination, the rest of us need to work at it. Practice exercises can be done at home. Playing darts is effective, put the dart board at the same distance as the bowling target you are havi...
by Starion
July 31st, 2020, 2:52 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: returning ball to factory finish
Replies: 4
Views: 1548

Re: returning ball to factory finish

Is there really a significant difference so long as you end up with a thorough surfacing using the same start/ending grits, gradually changing as you go?
by Starion
July 31st, 2020, 2:50 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?
Replies: 26
Views: 7426

Re: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?

Are you guys talking about this?ball11.jpg That's the center of gravity stamp for Columbia balls. The PSO didn't do it. (It IS a bit far from the pin.) Thanks Tom & Greg. If true, then I'm totally wrong about the stamp. Sure looks like an idiot stamp to show which way to use the ball ( and to p...
by Starion
July 31st, 2020, 2:46 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Q on axis tilt
Replies: 4
Views: 1512

Q on axis tilt

Learning these terms & how they apply, I found a vid to explain. https://youtu.be/6N_K6bohEQY?t=66 "less tire touching means less traction" (true....for a TIRE but not a symmetrically round ball!) "the higher your tilt the further down lane your ball will go before reacting to fri...
by Starion
July 29th, 2020, 9:06 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?
Replies: 26
Views: 7426

Re: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?

^ I agree! The stamp is wrong, although it's immediately clear that I cannot fit my fingers if it were flipped. The fact the PSO won't admit to stamping it incorrectly is a red flag to me and reason to seek another PSO to work with moving FW. I'm not a league bowler yet either FWIW, although I know ...
by Starion
July 27th, 2020, 5:54 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?
Replies: 26
Views: 7426

Re: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?

^ yes, that's what I'm saying. He STAMPED the little engraved pic of a hand UPSIDE DOWN vs. the fit of my fingers. Can see if you zoom in on the pics. What you say is true IF a player has the same sized fingers & is able to throw upside down. It seems he drilled it correctly for a full roller, w...
by Starion
July 15th, 2020, 12:44 am
Forum: Community Coaching
Topic: That $%^&* 10 pin
Replies: 24
Views: 10280

Re: That $%^&* 10 pin

here is a comment from a no thumb bowler on that above: Samuel Kraft 7 months ago ~ For the no thumb bowlers~ I don't use a thumb and I bowl one handed, so using the same concept of thumb position I change the position of my pointer finger or pinky and sometimes both if needed to be more aggressive...
by Starion
July 14th, 2020, 7:12 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Process for Layout Measure/Coaching & plug/drill of 2 fingered
Replies: 9
Views: 2527

Re: Process for Layout Measure/Coaching & plug/drill of 2 fingered

No thumbers/2hands need urethane more to keep their angles in front of them. I'm 1 hander. Although my long-time only/first ball was urethane and not drilled to fit, so it was even less than 1 carpel fingertip grip (edge of hole on dead center of my fingerprints)...probably what led to the full rol...
by Starion
July 14th, 2020, 7:09 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Process for Layout Measure/Coaching & plug/drill of 2 fingered
Replies: 9
Views: 2527

Re: Process for Layout Measure/Coaching & plug/drill of 2 fingered

so if you pivot the ball, with your fingers in the holes (and you're describing a fingertip grip - it's what I use, just with my thumb in it. Fingers in to the first joint, fingertip; fingertips in to the second joint, conventional; fingertips in part-way between, weird. :) ) does that twist your f...
by Starion
July 13th, 2020, 9:30 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?
Replies: 26
Views: 7426

Re: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?

Thanks Jim. I didn't know that, but knew the track lines between the fingers and palm = full roller. The lines are now left of finger holes FWIW. The ball was my choice after a lot of research. Very flexible ball, hybrid cover, good pin carry, etc. Perfect for a daily ball in various conditions from...
by Starion
July 13th, 2020, 8:26 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?
Replies: 26
Views: 7426

Re: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?

^ Thanks Jim! That's what I figured. But now that I know I'm NOT a full roller, what if anything does this tell me about how the ball might be responding weaker or worse than ideal? Might I actually be throwing against the intended core design with this setup? I'm seeing oil track lines fanning acro...
by Starion
July 13th, 2020, 7:00 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Process for Layout Measure/Coaching & plug/drill of 2 fingered
Replies: 9
Views: 2527

Re: Process for Layout Measure/Coaching & plug/drill of 2 fingered

No rambling at all! I've dumped a helleva lot into one post and appreciate any & all feedback. Figured it better than separating into multiple threads, although I did another regarding the ball drilling: http://forum.bowlingchat.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14773 Notice there's no plugs or insert...
by Starion
July 13th, 2020, 6:39 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?
Replies: 26
Views: 7426

Re: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?

I think you might be confused on what your PSO did, if so, then he did nothing wrong. There are not enough pictures to show otherwise. for 2 handed bowlers, especially ones that do not put their thumb in the ball, there are cases where the pin is "WAY" above the fingers, because now the f...
by Starion
July 13th, 2020, 10:32 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Process for Layout Measure/Coaching & plug/drill of 2 fingered
Replies: 9
Views: 2527

Re: Reasonable Price & Process for Layout Measure/Coaching & plug/drill of 2 fingered

Normal Grip:
normal grip 1.jpg
normal grip 2.jpg
normal grip 3.jpg


altered grip - counterclockwise - extra hook:
altered grip - counterclockwise - extra hook.jpg

altered grip - clockwise - less hook:
altered grip - clockwise - less hook.jpg
by Starion
July 13th, 2020, 10:26 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?
Replies: 26
Views: 7426

Is this ball drilled upside down or wrong?

I'm right-handed 2 finger, 1 hander. This is my first ball & PSO drilled it as a full roller based on 3 balls thrown with a non-fitted ball. PSO strongly assured me that he stamped the hand logo correctly although the stamp is clearly upside down & opposite of my hand fit if you click on the...
by Starion
July 13th, 2020, 9:55 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Process for Layout Measure/Coaching & plug/drill of 2 fingered
Replies: 9
Views: 2527

Process for Layout Measure/Coaching & plug/drill of 2 fingered

Brace for 5 questions wrapped into this OP: Thanks in advance :) I'm reading that drilling ranges around $40 & up. Seems reasonable. A) Should I expect any less for only 2 fingers?? (I know, hang with me on this...) I'm looking for a certified coach able to get my measurements, which I've not h...
by Starion
July 13th, 2020, 8:48 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Does cosmic bowling etc help you train at all?
Replies: 9
Views: 2995

Re: Does cosmic bowling etc help you train at all?

NO!! Friends and I used to love it when rec bowling since middle school until recently actually. I led the charge in getting my own ball drilled, bringing own shoes etc. now several have. We all appreciate being able to see the arrows!! For some reason, the arrows never glow under blacklight in desp...