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by elgavachon
August 22nd, 2023, 5:46 pm
Forum: The Pro Shop
Topic: No Thumb Layouts
Replies: 3
Views: 532

Re: No Thumb Layouts

Mo and Mikey's layouts had shorter Pin to Pap distances (on average for asymmetrical balls) and higher ratios. Mo was a fan of retaining tilt with short pin layouts. The 2ls layouts use very long pin to PAPs on most of them with smaller ratios. The #2 layout on the 2ls system is more in line with wh...
by elgavachon
August 22nd, 2023, 5:27 pm
Forum: The Pro Shop
Topic: Half Thumb
Replies: 2
Views: 545

Re: Half Thumb

Chances are that your thumb hole will move left of the centerline you are now measuring your finger pitches off from. To keep the same pitches, you will have to continue drilling of that same line. I would use 2 seperate centerlines. One for drilling fingers and another for your thumb (and also to m...
by elgavachon
August 19th, 2023, 12:05 am
Forum: The Pro Shop
Topic: No Thumb Layouts
Replies: 3
Views: 532

Re: No Thumb Layouts

I tried both. I then converted each layout to dual angle and still think that is easier.
by elgavachon
August 18th, 2023, 5:13 pm
Forum: The Pro Shop
Topic: Thumb issues
Replies: 11
Views: 1944

Re: Thumb issues

I would have your driller check into Joe Slowinski's ADT drilling method. I switched to it and most of the people that I drill for like it better (of the ones willing to try it). He uses a lot of left lateral in all of the thumb holes. You can get the instructions from his website or on facebook if ...
by elgavachon
April 11th, 2023, 10:35 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Sticky rubber heals
Replies: 5
Views: 799

Re: Sticky rubber heals

You could put super glue on the rubber heal.
by elgavachon
December 15th, 2020, 8:30 am
Forum: The Pro Shop
Topic: Thumbless full-roller?
Replies: 7
Views: 2981

Re: Thumbless full-roller?

If I put the pin more than 5.5" from PAP on a weak symmetrical ball, a lot of 2 handed bowlers hit holes. If VAL angle is too small, the same thing with backwards flare. Try not to go less than 40*.
by elgavachon
January 15th, 2020, 5:29 pm
Forum: Coaching Discussion
Topic: Two hander fighting extremely high track
Replies: 10
Views: 5553

Re: Two hander fighting extremely high track

Juha says to roll it off of the wrist starting about a foot before the ankle (he says it happens when opposite hand leaves the ball). In the video, his wrist appears to stay fixed as if he has a wrist guard on (this is what I meant by not hitting up on ball and why Juha wants loose fingers). You mig...
by elgavachon
January 13th, 2020, 9:24 pm
Forum: Layout Advice
Topic: Performance Fit Question
Replies: 1
Views: 1324

Re: Performance Fit Question

you can keep exaggerating the changes.
by elgavachon
January 4th, 2020, 2:53 am
Forum: Coaching Discussion
Topic: Two hander fighting extremely high track
Replies: 10
Views: 5553

Re: Two hander fighting extremely high track

Keep the pin above the line from his PAP to top of middle finger. Juha says that the best way to get off middle finger is to release earlier. He does not want fingers in ball past knuckle and he wants holes fairly loose. avoid hitting up. Looks like Joe is trying to do what Mo recommends with ball s...
by elgavachon
December 24th, 2019, 8:57 pm
Forum: Layout Advice
Topic: i've drilled a ball twice should i drill that ball again
Replies: 4
Views: 2207

Re: i've drilled a ball twice should i drill that ball again

KurtHuhn wrote: December 24th, 2019, 8:46 pm If you do drill the thumb first, how do you compensate for the finger inserts? I know if you drill the fingers first, you don't really need a cut-to-cut span and just use a full span measurement.
I just measure the inserts and subtract that from the cut to cut measurement.
by elgavachon
December 11th, 2019, 10:43 am
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: No Thumb - One handed??
Replies: 11
Views: 4497

Re: No Thumb - One handed??

The drilling patterns you posted (viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14573), are only for symmetrical balls. Best way for asymmetrical layouts (no thumb) is to use very large drilling angles. I like 90* with a 45* VAL angle. The higher ratio helps retain tilt a little longer (although with very short pin to P...
by elgavachon
November 9th, 2019, 6:12 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: BowlingChat Upgrade to PHP 7.2 / phpBB 3.2 - *COMPLETED*
Replies: 27
Views: 19730

Re: Change is coming... BowlingChat Upgrade to PHP7.2/phpBB

Glad you are keeping it alive. You can't get this much personal touch on facebook. Good luck.
by elgavachon
October 21st, 2019, 4:35 pm
Forum: Ball Talk
Topic: High diff. core/low flare layout vs. med diff/regular layout
Replies: 15
Views: 4502

Re: High diff. core/low flare layout vs. med diff/regular la

I am lost on this as well. If I had a strong ball such as a hammer ripped or something and put a low flare layout on it, I would use it in a situation where I am already using a strong ball, but it is sort of over reacting in the backend and either too sharp of backend or it is covering too many bo...
by elgavachon
October 19th, 2019, 6:54 am
Forum: Ball Talk
Topic: High diff. core/low flare layout vs. med diff/regular layout
Replies: 15
Views: 4502

Re: High diff. core/low flare layout vs. med diff/regular la

I appreciate the responses I have received so far but I think they are missing the main point of my question. I am not asking how flare affects ball motion, I am asking why (or if) reducing the flare on a high differential ball causes the ball to flare differently than a ball that comes with a medi...
by elgavachon
September 10th, 2019, 8:17 pm
Forum: General Bowling
Topic: Podcast - interview with new owner of the PBA
Replies: 2
Views: 1293

Podcast - interview with new owner of the PBA

Here is a link to interview with new owner of the PBA

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by elgavachon
August 30th, 2019, 7:30 am
Forum: Layout Advice
Topic: Layout Recommendation
Replies: 9
Views: 3099

Re: Layout Recommendation

I thought Mo stated no thumbs should avoid 2.5 to 4 inches? More hook, 4.5 to 5.5 and 2.5 to 1 for low flare? In symmetrical balls the 4.5 to 5.5 would be low flare. Mo said to avoid 2.5 to 4 inches because under most circumstances a no thumb bowler does not need that much motion (they are trying t...
by elgavachon
August 29th, 2019, 7:53 pm
Forum: Layout Advice
Topic: Layout Recommendation
Replies: 9
Views: 3099

Re: Layout Recommendation

ball speed 15.90-19.34 mph rev rate 479 rotation 45* to 90* tilt 4* what kind of layout would i need to hook it more because i don't hook it all that much my normal line is about 3rd arrow to 5 board and 19.34 has been my highest two handed ball speed and i'm two handed Mo says for a 2 hander to ho...
by elgavachon
August 2nd, 2019, 8:48 am
Forum: Coaching Discussion
Topic: Fingers across the back not up the back
Replies: 8
Views: 4215

Re: Fingers across the back not up the back

A video might help.
by elgavachon
July 31st, 2019, 5:33 pm
Forum: Coaching Discussion
Topic: Fingers across the back not up the back
Replies: 8
Views: 4215

Re: Fingers across the back not up the back

Some people do it by cocking hand (not cupping). puts all the weight on your pointer finger which is in line with your wrist/arm/elbow and has fingers aimed left (for right hander).